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Thq nordic adds achievements to your gog games and treats gog users with the same respect as steam users

It's sad to see how companies that make money on gog do not add to their games the same options that they add to their steam games.

There are many complaints that there have been because thq nordic does not add achievements in their versions of gog and yes they add them in steam.Pero also because the support that gives their games in steam is superior to the support that it offers to their gog games when we pay the same price.

Here in gog the achievements are one of the most claimed options by users as you can see in the wish list:



https://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy/offline_achievements

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy/put_point_on_the_achievementsput_score_on_the_achievements



In the forums of gog they have been asked to add achievements but Thq nordic has never responded even though many users by email have asked them to treat us just like the users of steam
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boztix: Thq nordic adds achievements to your gog games and treats gog users with the same respect as steam users
On the other hand I won't mind them to ditch achievements and thus treat gog users with more respect than steam users.
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boztix: Thq nordic adds achievements to your gog games and treats gog users with the same respect as steam users
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Telika: On the other hand I won't mind them to ditch achievements and thus treat gog users with more respect than steam users.
Your opinion is very respectable but the achievements are very popular in gog.The request for achievements ofline has more than 4000 votes.

The good esque in gog everything is optional, if you like gog galaxy you can not use it, but you like the achievements you can deactivate them.
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boztix: Your opinion is very respectable
Not necessarily, given that my opinion is that "achievements" are a manipulative device that exploits some not-to-bright aspects of gamers.

My point was mostly that I tend to see the inclusion of "achievements" as cynical contempt for the customers, and the lack of them as a mark of respect. In other words, I was reacting to your phrasing, which associated "featured achievements" with "mark of respect", while I read the opposite into the presence of these features.

That said, let's not get carried away in that direction either. The omission of this device in gog versions is probably more due to laziness than to genuine respect or particular expectation about gog customers. "Non-A -> B" doesn't imply "Non-B -> A".
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boztix: In the forums of gog they have been asked to add achievements but Thq nordic has never responded even though many users by email have asked them to treat us just like the users of steam
Maybe what you consider "many", is actually just an extremely vocal minority. Surely if achievements would increase sale numbers, by a noticeable amount, THQ Nordic would be more than happy to invest some money in that. Also the GOG forum populace is in itself a small minority of the people actually using GOG to buy their games. I don't know if any numbers were release, but I'd bet that less than 0.01% of the buyers have ever used the forum even once.
Post edited February 15, 2018 by MadalinStroe
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boztix: In the forums of gog they have been asked to add achievements but Thq nordic has never responded even though many users by email have asked them to treat us just like the users of steam
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MadalinStroe: Maybe what you consider "many", is actually just an extremely vocal minority. Surely if achievements would increase sale numbers, by a noticeable amount, THQ Nordic would be more than happy to invest some money in that. Also the GOG forum populace is in itself a small minority of the people actually using GOG to buy their games. I don't know if any numbers were release, but I'd bet that less than 0.01% of the buyers have ever used the forum even once.
More than 4000 people who vote among other things for offline achievements are many people. And yes the forum is a minority, but the votes are not.
I never really understood why there is so much hate for achievements... Sure, I get the argument that they may be exploitative and push people to play games for longer to achieve every single achievement. However, in what I've seen during my life, most people don't care about achievements unless it is in a game that they love and WANT to play again. The achievements just give them a secondary goal to spice things up a little after they have already played the game. Personnally, I enjoy achievements as they give me something more in the games that I already love and want more. However, they are just optional and I do not care for achievements in games that I don't really enjoy.

All in all, I think more games should add achievements for the people that love thoses games and want something more. If you don't care about achievements (either in general or in a specific game), just ignore them! :P
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boztix: More than 4000 people who vote among other things for offline achievements are many people. And yes the forum is a minority, but the votes are not.
:)) That's exactly what a minority is.
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Awolnation: I never really understood why there is so much hate for achievements... Sure, I get the argument that they may be exploitative and push people to play games for longer to achieve every single achievement. However, in what I've seen during my life, most people don't care about achievements unless it is in a game that they love and WANT to play again. The achievements just give them a secondary goal to spice things up a little after they have already played the game. Personnally, I enjoy achievements as they give me something more in the games that I already love and want more. However, they are just optional and I do not care for achievements in games that I don't really enjoy.

All in all, I think more games should add achievements for the people that love thoses games and want something more. If you don't care about achievements (either in general or in a specific game), just ignore them! :P
Ever heard a similar phrase to "can not release there because there are no achievements"? That is why some people hate them. If they would stick to the games and not to the launcher nobody would complain.
I don't care about achievements at all, so I'm fine with THQ, but I can understand that someone who likes them would be upset if they are not included here for the same selling price.
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anothername: and not to the launcher nobody would complain.
People will always find a reason to complain.
don't care much for achievements myself.
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Awolnation: I never really understood why there is so much hate for achievements... Sure, I get the argument that they may be exploitative and push people to play games for longer to achieve every single achievement. However, in what I've seen during my life, most people don't care about achievements unless it is in a game that they love and WANT to play again. The achievements just give them a secondary goal to spice things up a little after they have already played the game. Personnally, I enjoy achievements as they give me something more in the games that I already love and want more. However, they are just optional and I do not care for achievements in games that I don't really enjoy.

All in all, I think more games should add achievements for the people that love thoses games and want something more. If you don't care about achievements (either in general or in a specific game), just ignore them! :P
The issue of achievements in gog is much debated in other forums. It is true that the achievements have been successful in xbox, psn, steam or gog but it is also true that they have their detractors.

I like achievements, they invite me to achieve secondary objectives or replay the games but it is also true that I do not understand when I read users say they prefer to buy a game in steam rather than in gog because in gog has no achievements that game To me it seems absurd.

It is also true that if a company adds achievements or cloudsave in steam that company should add them in gog if only out of respect for the users of gog.

However many companies sell a game in gog and then they do not support the game in gog, that for me is more dramatic than the achievements and in the case of thq is one more example among the many that are in gog.

It is the responsibility of the guys of cd projekt that the developers respect this platform. We the users do little or nothing at all.
I personally find achievements to be useless unless they come with some sort of bonus. Most of them I've seen are stupid things that mean nothing, such as: "Congratulations! You made it out of the tutorial!" Well, no shit. You had to interrupt the gameplay to tell me that? Really, I've killed 100 monsters in a bullet hell game? Isn't that pretty much the point of the game? Gee, I hardly noticed I was killing all those bad guys, what with all the blood and bodies on the floor.

Specifically regarding achievements, Galaxy has its own capability for that, no? If so, then the developer should be adding that to the gOg version if it's a client-based feature when sold at another store.

Or maybe the industry can come up with a generic way of offering client-based achievements that is client-agnostic. Would be nice if all of this stuff was built into the game itself and clients weren't the means to implement the features, but that ship sailed.
I am fine either way, I don't care for achievements (especially as I don't currently use Galaxy, but I don't care about achievements even in my Steam games, never really pursuing them), but I am not against publishers adding achievements to the GOG versions, if they feel like it.

However, I will not sign a petition which seems to require publishers to add Galaxy achievements, suggesting that otherwise they are not treating GOG customers with respect. I don't want to give a sign that games without achievements are not welcome to GOG.

I am THANKFUL for e.g. THQ Nordic releasing so many good games on GOG, achievements or not.

So no, I will not sign the petition, sorry. But I promise not to sign any counter-petition either, like that they shouldn't add any achievements. Deal?

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HereForTheBeer: I personally find achievements to be useless unless they come with some sort of bonus. Most of them I've seen are stupid things that mean nothing, such as: "Congratulations! You made it out of the tutorial!" Well, no shit. You had to interrupt the gameplay to tell me that?
I've said it before, but I'd even prefer that online multiplayer games wouldn't have achievements because they seem to push other players play in stupid ways, not caring for the team objectives.

E.g. Team Fortress 2 has apparently both achievements and contracts, and the main difference seems to be that contracts can give you some new items etc. Anyway, quite often when I see some teammate playing in a way that doesn't just make sense and doesn't help the team at all, they usually just say "I am here just trying to complete this damn contract.".

Sometimes players even beg other players from the enemy team to help them with a contract so that they wouldn't care for the real objectives either. So for instance if the contract says the person must kill 10 people without dying himself in between, it suggest enemies should just line up with him that he can repeatedly kill them.

Abolish achievements from online multiplayer games, please! In single-player games I care less as I can just not care about them.
Post edited February 15, 2018 by timppu