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We’d like to inform you about the removal of Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem.

Despite their best efforts, the devs behind Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem will not be able to maintain update parity between GOG.COM and other platforms. We've mutually agreed that it's best to delist the game from our catalog.

If you own the game on GOG.COM, you'll of course get to keep the game in your library.
If you have additional questions, please reach out to our support team.
Post edited March 28, 2019 by chandra
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Worthless devs and the amount of devs that care so little about platform parity are too large already not to mention because of actions like what Wolcen Studio has shown, it's a gamble when deciding whether to buy a game at launch or close to it or simply waiting until it's 100% complete unless the devs have already proven themselves several times over.
Post edited March 28, 2019 by ChrisGamer300
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chandra: Despite their best efforts, the devs behind Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem will not be able to maintain update parity between GOG.COM and other platforms. We've mutually agreed that it's best to delist the game from our catalog.
Sounds about right.
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NuffCatnip: I decided to open a ticket to ask for a refund, it's simply not fair to be stuck with an unfinished game in your library, I mean I paid the full price for the final product and not a half-assed alpha build. :/
Fuck the devs btw.
I also opened a ticket last night after finding out the new beta that launched today for Wolcen will not be on GOG. We'll see what support says, I mean I'd be happy with store credit considering I bought the game 3 years ago.

Also: Fuck the devs.
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NuffCatnip: I decided to open a ticket to ask for a refund, it's simply not fair to be stuck with an unfinished game in your library, I mean I paid the full price for the final product and not a half-assed alpha build. :/
Fuck the devs btw.
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CymTyr: I also opened a ticket last night after finding out the new beta that launched today for Wolcen will not be on GOG. We'll see what support says, I mean I'd be happy with store credit considering I bought the game 3 years ago.

Also: Fuck the devs.
Yeah, I don't know wether they have to refund the game or not, but it'd certainly be a nice gesture. :)
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CymTyr: I also opened a ticket last night after finding out the new beta that launched today for Wolcen will not be on GOG. We'll see what support says, I mean I'd be happy with store credit considering I bought the game 3 years ago.

Also: Fuck the devs.
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NuffCatnip: Yeah, I don't know wether they have to refund the game or not, but it'd certainly be a nice gesture. :)
They don't have to, but if they do, I'll be very happy. We'll see, Catnip. Good luck!
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chandra: , the devs behind Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem will not be able to maintain update parity between GOG.COM and other platforms. We've mutually agreed that it's best to delist the game from our catalog.
Thanks for the notice and it was the correct decision.

However, I would like to raise my suggestion again: could you make removal warnings blue News threads please? Or make them stand out in some other way. It's far too easy to miss these in the flood of other regular threads.
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MightyPinecone: They don't specifically mention what happens if the game gets pulled before it's fully released, so I don't know if it applies to you, but regardless: good luck! Ideally any refund would be out of the publishers pocket.
I'll go ahead and quote something I posted a few months ago when another In Dev title was pulled:

Maybe the dev has no intention to pay back the money they made through gog purchases? Would be a pretty sweet deal for them actually: Milk the gog consumers during the In-Dev-phase and then make off with the money and leave gog customers with an incomplete game (that will presumably never receive any patches either) while gog is left with the option to offer refunds out of their own pockets or offering no refunds at all.

This is of course pure conjecture and I hope that the devs aren't actually such huge scumbags.
Given the brazen don't-give-a-shit-attitude these devs have displayed in their correspondence, along with the swiftness gog has removed this game from sale, I wouldn't be surprised if the devs actually *are* such huge scumbags... Gog's 14-day refund policy for In Dev titles ironically enough enables and encourages such behaviour.

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CymTyr: I also opened a ticket last night after finding out the new beta that launched today for Wolcen will not be on GOG. We'll see what support says, I mean I'd be happy with store credit considering I bought the game 3 years ago.

Also: Fuck the devs.
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NuffCatnip: Yeah, I don't know wether they have to refund the game or not, but it'd certainly be a nice gesture. :)
For what it's worth, I can confirm that I got refunds for two games due to lack of updates: Perception and Riot. Perception was a "finished" game that never got an update despite game-breaking bugs (and got pulled about a year later) while Riot is an In Dev title that launched its 1.0 build on Steam but - at the time - not on gog. Gog support will probably go "You bought this x amount of time ago, so you're outside the grace period, but we could offer you a refund in the form of store credit.", so you'll get your money back as store credit at the very least. It sucks for gog that they'll likely have to pay it out of their own pockets, but they're the ones who pride themselves on their brilliant curation. It's ultimately their fault for allowing such devs here in the first place.
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NuffCatnip: I decided to open a ticket to ask for a refund, it's simply not fair to be stuck with an unfinished game in your library, I mean I paid the full price for the final product and not a half-assed alpha build. :/
Fuck the devs btw.
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CymTyr: I also opened a ticket last night after finding out the new beta that launched today for Wolcen will not be on GOG. We'll see what support says, I mean I'd be happy with store credit considering I bought the game 3 years ago.

Also: Fuck the devs.
You are free to do what you wish and on some levels I do get it, but if it were me I would not hurt and punish GOG for the action (or lack their of) of a shitty dev.
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CymTyr: I also opened a ticket last night after finding out the new beta that launched today for Wolcen will not be on GOG. We'll see what support says, I mean I'd be happy with store credit considering I bought the game 3 years ago.

Also: Fuck the devs.
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viranimus: You are free to do what you wish and on some levels I do get it, but if it were me I would not hurt and punish GOG for the action (or lack their of) of a shitty dev.
I don't feel this is punishing GOG. This would refund the game and come out of Wolcen's development proceeds on GOG. There is a distinct difference.
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viranimus: You are free to do what you wish and on some levels I do get it, but if it were me I would not hurt and punish GOG for the action (or lack their of) of a shitty dev.
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CymTyr: I don't feel this is punishing GOG. This would refund the game and come out of Wolcen's development proceeds on GOG. There is a distinct difference.
Except that is not how commerce and retail distribution works. Refunds would either partially or completely be on GOG dependent on their contract with Wolcen.
Yes but the developer lied to all who kickstarted the game and all who bought in-dev unfinished game. I care not about their change of direction! I demand finished DRM-free game here on GOG.com. In our defense GOG will need to go after Wolcen Studio for all damages. Also Wolcen Studio needs to refund all the kickstarter payments to all Persons affected by this ill conceived change unknowingly or knowingly prior.

This is Not Right!
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NovumZ: Also Wolcen Studio needs to refund all the kickstarter payments to all Persons affected by this ill conceived change unknowingly or knowingly prior.
No they don't. They maybe should, but they certainly don't have too.

This is the gamble with Kickstarter. You might get exactly what you want, you might get something else, and you might get nothing.

For the record, I backed this on Kickstarter. I'm disappointed with the way things have worked out. I'm not demanding a refund because that's not how Kickstarter works. I knew that going in.
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NovumZ: Also Wolcen Studio needs to refund all the kickstarter payments to all Persons affected by this ill conceived change unknowingly or knowingly prior.
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hummer010: No they don't. They maybe should, but they certainly don't have too.

This is the gamble with Kickstarter. You might get exactly what you want, you might get something else, and you might get nothing.

For the record, I backed this on Kickstarter. I'm disappointed with the way things have worked out. I'm not demanding a refund because that's not how Kickstarter works. I knew that going in.
ok, I understand your point of view.
Post edited March 29, 2019 by NovumZ
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chandra: Despite their best efforts, the devs behind Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem will not be able to maintain update parity between GOG.COM and other platforms. We've mutually agreed that it's best to delist the game from our catalog.
I know you can't oficially say the truth because it would reflect bad on Gog for shaming crappy devs, so let me run this through a de-BSfier:

"Those hacks behind Wolcen couldn't be arsed with updating the game many of you paid for and they think our customers are second class compared to other stores's customers. So we called them out on it and they decided they would rather just cut any future profit from Gog and get away with their current loot. We can't recover what they already took but we can keep them from fooling more of our customers so we're booting out their garbage. We wish we had never invited these assholes in here. Good riddance."