I pointed out in an earlier postthat there is also an Immortal Edition upgrade that wasn't revealed in the original post. That too seems meant to be from the the base game, considering its price and overlap of digital extras compared to the Legacy Edition upgrade.

I'm thinking of the price of the digital extras as being about the cost of the strategy guide, with the rest of the digital extras an attempt to help buffer any disagreement about the strategy guide's value.

You know it ain't worth it when the extras cost as much as the game on its own. It's a good thing I've never bought games for their extras. ;)

As for the game itself, I'll wait on some more reviews. Even then, I may not buy. Hell, I've had three abortive attempts at PT, and I haven't finished any of the classic Infinity Engine RPGs in my backlog; I even bought all of them. *whistles innocently*

Wow, no wonder it was not announced, the price is the same as that of the game, to the cent; now I see what mistermumbles meant.

Almost 50USD... must be one hell of a strategy guide, given that it's not even an actual, printed book. The upgrade from Base to Legacy, however, doesn't seem to support your point of view. Unless you mean that even if one chooses an edition/upgrade path that doesn't include the strategy guide, they still pay for it; sounds even worse to me.


EDIT: And I just noticed that the Base Edition does not include the manual. Seriously, inXile? For almost 50USD, not even the manual?

Thanks this site is often recognized for being less prone to overrating. For instance, 7 is a good grade. And one of their reviewers got frowned upon for "not having the same opinion as other reviewers". :P

What I mean by the buffer is the Immortal Edition upgrade's cost of $45 dollars represents the strategy guide and all the digital extras, so that implies the strategy guide is valued at less than $45 because the digital extras share some of that value. Establishing a middle tier, the Legacy Edition, at $20 gives the impression that the difference for the Immortal Edition is only $25 more. Because the Legacy Edition has only some of the digital extras other than the strategy guide, that implies the strategy guide in the Immortal Edition is not that full value of $25 because there are still some other digital extras not in the Legacy Edition sharing that value. Yet, the strategy guide is unavailable unless the full $45 package is bought.

That's what I mean by buffering the price: they add extra content (buffer) giving the impression it's not the guide that costs $45, as well as adding another tier (another buffer) to emphasize the guide isn't even half of the $45, even though the guide can't be gotten without spending $45. (I just couldn't think of another word besides "buffer".)

That's not to say the other content is not worth $20+; perhaps the novellas and artwork are appropriately valued at that. For myself, I'm readily valuing the functional part (that is, the strategy guide) of the whole set, and considering everything else as simply memorabilia. Though, I will grant the five novellas are potentially a boon for fleshing out the storyline (a worthy value for a cherished game, if it becomes that). Keep in mind, I don't have any of this, not even the game, so I'm comparing what I think was intended (marketing) with what I actually value of what is provided.

As I noted in my previous post I linked, the manual was initially listed for the base game during the pre-order promotion, then the statement removed after it launched. And, that the Legacy Edition is ambiguously listed as having and not having avatars. So maybe the lack of a manual for the base game is inaccurate? It seems to me the pages still need tidying up, especially the base game page as (at this moment in time) it doesn't have any links to the digital extras upgrades, but only to the full versions of base + extras.

Well, I'm not a good consumer, because I never buy a day-0 game and also never preorder anything.

Anyway, I am happy, that this game comes to GOG.

Although I've played only a bit I can recommend this game, it's definitely much better than Pillars of Eternity or Tyranny. These Obsidian games seemed rather dull to me and the world looked artificial, I've had an impression I was in some kind of a theatre rather than a living world. In Torment the world seems much more alive and convincing.

So, can anyone tell me why this game is as much as $20 CAD cheaper on Steam than on GoG? It's only $49.99 CAD for basic edition, and only $99.99 CAD for the ultimate edition. Is the extra $20 for the "free" copy of Lord of Xulima? Regional pricing? Or even *shudder* am I pay extra to have the relatively benign DRM that is Steam removed? I really hope that is not the case. Seriously, I cannot think of a single legitimate reason one game can have two completely different prices across two completely different platforms for precisely the same amount of content.

I can think of at least one reason: Different stores. In particular, different set of services from each, as well as different expenses, and not to mention different accountants.

Reason number two: capitalism.
(Maybe. I don't really know what that is, let alone whether capitalism is ever a legitimate reason for anything.)

GOG adjusts price based on currency fluctuations, Steam doesn't.

GOG users are how to get Kickstarter special backer skins ?

I've been watching this since the kickstarter, congrats to the developers!

Why do think they'd be here at GOG? Did you start at Kickstarter? Did it say to try here?

If not, then perhaps try at KickStarter again and seek a link to the game company's webpage. They're bound to have instructions, but you might have to sign in first to get the instructions. Maybe in their forums.

Off the top of my head, that's what I would do, start at the beginning where I established the relationship. From your statement it sounds to me like that's at KickStarter, and the game company.

I did not get the Lord Of Xulima copy for buying Torment yesterday,

Is there a delay before I receive a copy?

Thank you for your answer.

Yes. One store uses regional pricing, the other doesn't. I'll let you guess which one is which.
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