It indeed is a release thread where people like me point out the facts that you get almost everything this EE version has to offer by modding the original game.
Too bad new customers can't get the original game anymore on GoG without having to purchase the EE version.

The mood is the same as in every forum or the real world for that matter: if you have an unpopular opinion regarding a certain topic people will lash out at you.
Instead of actually cultivating critical thinking skills and recognizing people are free to post their opinions and evaluating those opinions the majority of people are set in their ways and everyone going against their point of view needs to be eliminated.
I've yet to see a proper definition what a troll post or a toxic attitude is supposed to be.
Is everyone who disagrees with my opinion or has an unpopular point of view a troll?
Is everyone who points out mistakes I make toxic?

Those are empty words used to discredit resonable opinions.
If a post has indeed no value and is only used to get a certain reaction or if an individual lacks every common sense you have plenty of other words to describe them without feeling the need to hide behind those artificial words of troll/being toxic.
If you don't already have P:ST purchased prior to the relase of the EE version you're out of luck.
I even doubt P:ST keys as a gift wourld work.

Seriously, the toxic and troll stuff is all over the place.
1. For example there's one user in the Planescape and general forum cursing at Beamdog using every opportunity to talk about "SJW this SJW that", even though the problems in the game are totally unrelated to that kind of stuff.
2. We got users necroing threads again and again and again just because they can do it without any sanctions.
3. We got threads solely dedicated to personal feuds.

I could go on with more examples. None or at least barely anything like this was happening here in the old days. Lack of moderation was the same but sadly the attitude has changed by a whole lot.

The only way to obtain the original version is to buy or gift the EE. Not the best solution but it's still possible. And like with the Baldur's Gate EEs there will most likely be plenty of sales in the future.

Why wouldn't old gift codes work? Old BG gift keys are still working too.

The last game i got here was Wasteland 2, i left because of this rep downvote bullshit., I was going to buy PST EE here because i have the original, but as the downvoting is still so prevalent here, i'll fuck off back to Steam, where you meet a better class of asshole.

GOG, this bullshit is costing you business, the amount of people that have left because of this crap, which you won't do anything about, speaks for itself. Lots of decent customers and forum members gone, all you will eventually have left are these wankers.

I don't care about the rep, scrap it, it's the intimidation of cowardly hidden people constantly sniping genuine posts that is galling.

Well put. Although the upbeat note on the forums seems like wishful thinking. Do you say any sort of moderation happening in this thread? Or in the preorder one? Or...?

About multiaccounts and the gaming of the rep system and the reviews, they simply do not bother.

Edit: format.

Yes. Ignorance, frustration, malice... Sad cocktails. Most are redeemable, though. They just copy the behaviour they see in others.

Also, any uncoordinated majority is vulnerable before a minority with a common interest that manages to coordinate towards a common goal. Police, law, moderators and moderation rules try to stop the worst from happening, in their respective spheres.

Here, multiaccounts and reviewing of unowned games are allowed...

Well said. Years ago GOG was more focused in old games. Online communities that start healthy, like, with a focused goal (in this case the hobby of PC games) may stay healthy even unpoliced, if the growh rate allows the new users to pick up the informal rules and mores of the community, so that everything clicks. Being small also helps.

GOG has grown. It seems that past the point where it can remain unpoliced and stay healthy. A larger community makes it worth for some users that create accounts just to make propaganda against this or that company or even about politics or even plain bigotry. Then your community attracts more trolls.

Well, it is up to GOG where they put the resources in, but it is a pity that what once was a friendly forum to talk and learn about games is becoming this. GOG drew largely from the community: we wanted it to succeed; we liked old games treated with dignity and new games with charm, while they bet on the decency of custormers that were not held by DRM so that we could enjoy our games better.

Sure we all liked games. Not everyone liked the same games, and that never was a problem. The atmosphere remained friendly. So, maybe their plans do not allow them to spend significant resources in protecting this asset, the community they nurtured. No problem, if you want to become like any other business go ahead. Maybe they want us to become more customers and less community members. But, like skeletonbow said, even Steam is doing better in this respect, and they have much more customers. And participants in their forums.

Edit: format.

In fairness can you imagine what a shit show Steam forums would be with a voting system?

Is it 1984 yet? If people like the EE versions then that is their choice. Seeing that Planescape: Torment EE is the best selling game on GOG and popular on Steam, it seems the Sentimental Butt-Hurt pool of anti-voters are wrong and their down voting is meaningless.

That's right! Buy what you want! Freedom, Freedom, Freedom!

The deal may also be what is keeping Planetscape: Torment available at all. I don't know that we know all the details.

Everyone will have a different idea of what a price point means to them, and what seems reasonable. For me, it has to be one hell of a sale to get to my price range for a "remastered" game of this age that starts at $20.

Ideally, as a customer, I'd like to see both versions available separately (I dig customizable a-la-carte), but there are some compromises that we'll have to see in order for GOG to exist and grow.

If no compromises are made, we may not have any titles to choose from. I hope that GOG is doing what it can to make the best possible deal for us with publishers. In general, they seem to be holding up pretty well (<-totally my opinion: everyone will feel differently; and will have a different location and thickness of the line between ideal and sellout).

As far as the community goes, we are seeing some growing pains here. If it was just old-days GOGers, the community would be a bit more civil, but it would mean a smaller customer base and less negotiating power for GOG.

Ultimately, GOG seems to be trying to balance a complicated set comprised of growth, community, and deals with publishers/developers. I feel that what we have gotten may not be ideal, but it is reasonable to keep a classic game available. I think? $20, though? Ok, slightly less than reasonable at $20.

Keep on rockin' everybody! Have a great weekend!

Assuming it is true of course, I wonder what this aforementioned crowd will make of this below?
Info on possibly getting the classics unbundled : Post 29

I'm not going to let the state of the user forums affect my decision of where to buy my games. I have preferred the GOG forums over the Steam forums, but I buy my games here because they have what I want, DRM free.
I'm skeptical about that anwser. The classics don't even appear to be available on Steam, and I also didn't see the classics included with the originals.

And if GOG did begin policing the forums more they would be accused of "censorship" and "taking away people's freedom of speech".
I think these forums should be policed more, but if GOG did they would get some serioius pushback.
It's a no win sittation for GOG, really.

And a few people here still don't get that taking the original Planescape Torment out of the store was not GOG's call to make. The only choice they had was carrying the ED version of PT or not carrying it at all.

Someone is in a really bad mood today.
Serioulsly if you don't like the downvoting BS just ignore it.Easy to do.

Hi Everyone!

Do you have any idea why the TAB button doesnt highlight the objects in PTEE?

Do I miss something in options?

Thanks!