Answering a question with a question. Amazing work there Fridgeband. All you seem to do is this loop the loop. You're not proving that it wasn't a rude comment for multiple posts or double posting with saying you don't see something, answering with another question, and claiming something "Woosh" as going over the persons head in understanding (a.k.a their stupid) doesn't help your argument. Being as this is the internet we can't say the full extent of a persons mindset when they post. Posts are text and provide no body language or emotional ques so everything we read on the internet has some form of projection. However, that may be the case, there is a point where majority rule here is the key factor to the answer. Be that as we are playing your troll game with. Seems you've lost this one based on the majority of people saying Frodo was being rude.
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As for the topic of achievements. Well personally I don't have to have them. However, if a developer and publisher can take the extra time to add it to a DRM system they had to implement and can't add it to a DRM-Free version it seems like you're being cheated for your money. Considering they would've taken the extra time and money to implement the Steam DRM and/or say Denuvo and still have the ability to work on achievements within that DRM system. I mean the DRM-Free version should have cost less and made less work, but you pay the same or sometimes more and get less work put into the game.
Same thing with "Cloud Saving" when GOG provides it and it's not used, but is on Steam. Sure you can backup all of your 100+ game saves and move them from machine to machine. Though, why should I pay the same and get less on this as well?
I am proving a point, and the very fact that you are contradicting yourself by accusing me of of only seeming to be able to "loop the loop" while you yourself in your very first sentence are already deflecting and evading that very point that I am trying to make in the first place is very telling. You say that I am not proving that it wasn't a rude comment, but in fact I actually did just that. I proved that it wasn't a rude comment by FrodoBaggins by pointing out how the post that they made when they listed achievements was in fact actually an accurate list. I also in the same point I was proving, pointed out that everyone misunderstood their post as sarcastic, and thus viewed it as hostile, when in fact- the post was not being sarcastic. I have been playing video games for many years, and I know that the list of achievemnts that FrodoBaggins posted was not sarcastic, but in fact surprisingly accurate. The fact that the very accurate list of very realistic achievements was automatically percieved by so many people as being sarcastic, is not proof that FrodoBaggins post was rude in any way, but rather it was proof of the state of video games and the quality of achievements that actually exist- AS A WHOLE. Because FrodoBaggins post about a list of achievements was so accurate, and the quality of achievements has been so frustratingly low over many years of video games, I can fully understand why everyone looked at their post and said "no way this is real, they're just being rude" But really, they were only simply being honest. I am not calling ANYONE stupid, please do not put words in my mouth. I am simply stating with the "woosh" comment, that there is a very obvious reason why many people who I DO BELIEVE ARE ALL INTELLIGENT AND CAPABLE (A respectful compliment to many of our fellow forum users) are accidentally misunderstanding the context and the meaning of FrodoBaggins post. If you think my words do not help my argument, you are right, because I am making a completely different argument than the words you accusing me of saying.
You say:"Being as this is the internet we can't say the full extent of a persons mindset when they post. Posts are text and provide no body language or emotional ques so everything we read on the internet has some form of projection."
I couldn't possibly agree with you more. We are 100% in agreement on that specific set of words. However, I must ask, WHY then- are we all okay with making the assumption that they mean something bad? Wouldn't it have been more constructive to simply ask FrodoBaggins their true intentions rather than randomly accusing them of bad intentions?
You go on to say: "However, that may be the case, there is a point where majority rule here is the key factor to the answer."
I am beyond surprised at your words. You are telling me that just because a large group of people all decide that they choose what a person means, that this actually forces the person, FrodoBaggins being the person in question, to automatically retroactively mean and intend what the "majority rule" as you say, WANTS THEM TO MEAN? Are you telling me that a large enough group of people can mind-control someone into meaning something that they don't actually mean, without their knowledge or consent? How is this possible? Can you teach me how to use these super powers?
You then say:
"Be that as we are playing your troll game with. Seems you've lost this one based on the majority of people saying Frodo was being rude."
Having an opinion does not make me or FrodoBaggins a troll, and this is a conversation, not a game. The forum is where people talk about games, not play them.
Troll bridge, don't feed the trolls.
No one is belittling games without achivements. People who likes them are noticing with disappointment that games that have achievements on Steam don't have them for the GOG version. It's unfair that we are getting less content that we like for the same money. I'd rather still support the GOG version but I will ask to the devs that they fix this.
Why people need to jump in everytime this happens and say that achievements are stupid or things were better on their C64?
I personally do not like achievements AT ALL
I hate the idea of having my gameplay experience being constantly judged, which takes the fun out of it for me.
HOWEVER... If the game has achievements, I do agree that they should be included in all releases of the game. I do find that unfair that they are missing from one version, if they are actually in fact included in another version. If they're just being removed like that, it is silly and I recognize that sillyness and understand everyones frustration. I just hope that there is always the option to remove and disable achievements from my own game if they are in a game that I play, and I strongly believe that disabling or removing the achievements should automatically unlock any game content that is locked behind the achievements, because the only thing more frustrating than achievements, is achievements that are tied into the games code and lock content unless the achievement is unlocked. I will always choose the option to disable achievements, and I just really hope that that also unlocks all of that locked content. Sometimes, if a game has achievements, I automatically simply don't buy that game. I usually permanently just avoid it forever. I think achievements are the worst thing that has ever happened to video games, along side "payed download-able content or DLC" Honestly, if the game has to distract me with immersion breaking achievements that pop up and interrupt my game play experience to judge me and judge what I have done in the game, then I personally think that this is a measure of the quality of the game. I feel that the game isn't good enough to entertain me all by itself, as it has to rely on a gimmick to keep me distracted from how boring the game actually is in reality.
Again, these are all my opinions and nobody has to agree with me, you can even keep calling me or anyone else who disagrees "a troll" simply for disagreeing (because how dare we have opinions!?) Why should we have to be labeled as bullies for having an opinion? It's just plain wrong. We all have a right to an opinon, and the right to share it. Everyone also has the right to agree or disagree. I hope you all have a nice day. Sincerely, I mean it. have a nice day.