can i just say, that i had a dream a few weeks ago that sega/gog finally released the yakuza games here (some of my most wanted) so i instabought all of them only to later find that they were infected with denuvo. but gog would not give me a refund. i woke up in a cold sweat.

Thank you for the explanation.

The first indeed sounds like something which could be patched relatively easy.

The second sounds a bit different.

Either way, I don't like the way it is handled.

Also, Diablo 3 could be played offline if bought on console, but having the online connection requirement was the reason I never bought the PC version.

Funnily enough, even on r/games (reddit) people are displeased, normally they don't give a toss about this kind of stuff.

Yeah, that's why I thought that just releasing a Complete Edition in the form of Hitman 3 + the 1 & 2 legacy packs would be the simplest thing to do since the technology behind Hitman 3 has been shown to support an offline mod. In that case it wouldn't matter if Hitman 1 had a technology gap or not.

IOI and GOG are in talks apparently, don't know what they'll do but at least they are aware of the backlash.

Source is from the latest stream they did. timestamp at 54min.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1156865525?t=00h54m00s

I agree that would have been the best option, said the exact same thing in the unofficially confirmed releases thread.

While I understand why contracts,elusives,escalations are online only and not a huge loss if the servers eventually fall considering there are mods that restore these, the challenges/unlocks however should be available for offline users.

I honestly have to wonder how this happened. The clip is awkward to watch, fella on the right looks like he's sitting on hot spikes when the topic comes up.

The process of any signing of games is pretty long but you know what you are signing, I don't really understand how it can go through multiple elements on both sides, with both parties knowing who the are dealing with, the game then going through testing, then marketing/community preparing stuff and the results is 'here's a game packed with DRM on DRM-FREE store' and stunned silence as they're surprised by the reaction.

I don't want to assume people don't do research into products they sell, but this with Devotion does suggest there's a no research made or they're just signing anything they can get their hands on without knowing what it is.

This should have been a big catch for GOG, but taking it with DRM should have been a no straight away. You can't build your house on foundations and run campaigns like 'FCKDRM' only to accept DRM and do it in a manner where you act as nothing has happened.

As a fan of the service and preservation, it's sad to see the betrayal of the DRM-Free approach and the lack of care towards the process of curation.

All content of the game - 100% - should be available DRM-free to offline users.

If they go for a fudge, like is being proposed in that quoted text, then in many ways that would be even worse than the full-blown DRM which it currently is, because a fudge situation more sneaky & insidious, and it sends the message to all other devs/publishers than DRM on GOG is A-Okay so long as they pretend like they did something to remove a bit of the DRM.

And it would require the customer to decipher each fudge situation meticulously on a game-by-game basis.

Moreover, no customer should ever have to use "mods" to remove DRM or restore missing content.

The only acceptable thing to do is 100% full DRM-free, with 0% content missing, for singleplayer games, period.

that offline mod in hitman 3 seems not be be good at all

i was just going to say, total deer in headlights.

Unless I miss something this thread talks about the vanilla release and doesn't mention the fan made mod.

Thanks a lot for the link. Even if they say almost nothing, at least they are aware, which makes me hopeful we'll get a proper answer of some kind. Even if the answer ended up being "the game stays as it is" at least we'd have proper confirmation of where things stand.

I also mostly agree with you that the other online only stuff isn't a big loss, although I am sure the extra mini-challenges not being available offline would sting a lot for those who are into that sort of content (the few I tried felt kind of cheap, so I didn't bother with them much at all).

Nobody realizes the boiling frog experiment is a myth. The frog will always jump out when the water gets too hot no matter how slowly. The few times where the frog didn’t - it’s been drugged, it’s legs were chopped off or the pot was covered - none of which had anything to do with the gradual increase in temperature.

So what can Gog learn from this? They’re gonna need to chop off our legs, staple our faces to the computer screen and pump us full of psychedelic drugs to get us to accept this version of “DRM-Free”.

Depends if the frog is kinky

I think it's at the same level than the classics : "we only uses 10% of our brain capability" or "Red anger bulls" incorrect things that everybody believes.