Vestin: OK, using your own definition - name some "good hard" and "bad hard" games.
Breja: You have failed to understand what I've been saying entirely, haven't you?
No. I'm not saying "based on difficulty" or "based on X". If you want to base it on marketing, go ahead. I simply want EXAMPLES. The EXTENSION can supplement the INTENSION (not a typo), you know.
Breja: I see you're one of those assholes (as, let's be honest, was quite evident from your manner from the start), so my time trying to explain this to you was wasted. Perhaps one day you'll learn that not everything is a competition, and you can't outrace someone who's just taking a walk :)
OK, no you've lost the plot.
If someone is running, and you're taking a walk, that doesn't make you worse,
but it also doesn't make him any worse of a runner.
Not every game is about competition, not everyone has to compete, not everyone has to value being the best, but if there are criteria for competition, people participate, and some are objectively better than others,
how you take this doesn't change what is the case. Would you insist that there are no better or worse chess players, just because you may like playing chess for fun? Does the existence of Kasparov invalidate yours somehow?
There is no contradiction in accepting the existence of values you do not hold dear. I know I ignore a multitude of disciplines, but I won't demand everyone be deprived of their titles just because I choose not to participate.
There are professional tiddly-winks players, FFS. I don't feel inferior to them, and yet some of them are better and some are worse. Vestin: OK, using your own definition - name some "good hard" and "bad hard" games.
Breja: You have failed to understand what I've been saying entirely, haven't you?
No. I'm not saying "based on difficulty" or "based on X". If you want to base it on marketing, go ahead. I simply want EXAMPLES. The EXTENSION can supplement the INTENSION (not a typo), you know.
Breja: I see you're one of those assholes (as, let's be honest, was quite evident from your manner from the start), so my time trying to explain this to you was wasted. Perhaps one day you'll learn that not everything is a competition, and you can't outrace someone who's just taking a walk :)
OK, now you've lost the plot.
If someone is running, and you're taking a walk, that doesn't make you worse,
but it also doesn't make him any worse of a runner.
Not every game is about competition, not everyone has to compete, not everyone has to value being the best, but if there are criteria for competition, people participate, and some are objectively better than others,
how you take this doesn't change what is the case. Would you insist that there are no better or worse chess players, just because you may like playing chess for fun? Does the existence of Kasparov invalidate yours somehow?
There is no contradiction in accepting the existence of values you do not hold dear. I know I ignore a multitude of disciplines, but I won't demand everyone be deprived of their titles just because I choose not to participate.
There are professional tiddly-winks players, FFS. I don't feel inferior to them, and yet some of them are better and some are worse. CARRiON.FLOWERS: Just because you don't play competitive games doesn't mean someone who does play and beat hard/competitive MP games isn't a more skilled gamer than you.
Thank you. That's all I've been trying to say. I'm for a "live and let live" approach, where those who like to compete don't get to feel superior to those who abstain,
but where those who abstain don't get to feel superior to those who compete either.