forum pop, weird release time

Ah, another spoonful of overpriced paradox dlc 'goodness'....yummy yummy in my tummy.

Also that discount for the main game....hey Paradox, it wouldn't have anything to do with the entire "mp needs a client running to play in game" thingie, would it? Nah......*waves hand*......that's crazy talk, that is.

Maybe we will need to be constantly logged online to a Pdox account for this content to show in-game like they did with other titles? Oh, wait, but game now has a launcher that do exactly that so forget my question :S

Also, yes, more DLC's what a surprise. Glad i still keep my old installers from before Pdox acquisition.

Which other titles are you talking about? I own several Paradox titles and none of them have a compulsory login.

I said for content to show in-game. I am talking about Battletech, for instance. I was a original backer at Kickstarter and now my skins dlc are not usable unless i'm logged in Pdox. The solution will be to buy the DLC for the "exclusive backer bonus content" which i don't own (4$/eur), ironically, because apparently they have removed the DRM from it while my content is still walled in Pdox plaza.

The same goes for all the digital bonus content (13$/eur), which i also don't own here (we received the standard version only and the rest is there at Pdox)

Not very nice at all for backers as you see :(

Well, the blame for that specific piece of bullshit is completely with Harebrained Schemes. They decided to go the cheap, thoughtless way with that.

In contrast, the Grim Dawn guys managed to do things properly at the time of their initial release. Despite the fact they were fewer people, some of the of people still had day jobs while working on Grim Dawn and they were just backed by their own money and a Kickstarter without publisher support. I think they were a couple of days for the Kickstarter rewards, but they managed them in the proper way.

Harebrained Schemes just jumped onto the first possible solution they stumbled upon without putting any kind of thought or work in regarding alternatives or consequences.

Or maybe they knew full well what they were doing, and wanted some extra cash. :|

That is extremely doubtful since the associated DLC was released significantly later. And the prices involved are not really high enough to make any reasonable person think they earned more by doing that after subtracting the losses of people they pissed off.

In general, I find Hanlon's razor a valuable insight: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

But of course you knew that and you just get a kick of being as negative and destructive as possible whenever I read you here.

You make a good point.
(Discarding the unneeded & offtopic insults)

Changing at the very last moment before release after announcing by surprise that Paradox will be their publisher and about 1-2 days before release announcing that to "protect" our investment and bonuses we will have to be logged on the Paradox site forcing us all to create/use an account there does not sound as something planned by Harebrained at all, and logic says it's much more plausible to be a condition forced by Paradox (the future owner of Harebrained, btw)

And this assumption is reinforced seeing what they (Paradox) are doing since then, trying to force people to use their launcher and site in every new game (for content, for MP or for simple access to games like this one... for whatever, there is always a reason and meanwhile they still claim to be completely drm-free, which is a half-truth being generous)

Harebrained sold themselves? Yes, i agree, and they announced it in the last moment, but the rest is made by Pdox, you have more examples from other games and other developers being Pdox the publisher. There are plenty of reviews here on GOG complaining about DRM, i'm not saying something new and that they have in their games at least partial DRM is not just my opinion, it's sadly the truth.

The one to blame here is the bigger fish, who has the money and power to make the decissions for Prison, Battletech and other games they made or directly bought. They are the ones that create a system for content that is already inside a game to be locked and not showing unless you are logged with them. Constantly, also, not only for activation so it's like any other online DRM game. Come on, that's...well, not nice, right?

And finally, yes, i also agree with you in that Grim Dawn devs did much better and i will gladly support them in their next project, something i will never do again not only with Harebrained but also with Paradox (not that Pdox needs my support for anything lol but i prefer to put my money in more honest hands)

Cheers.

This does not really hold up to scrutiny. First, Harebrained have a history of chickening out of DRM-free promises. I got burned with them before, *long* before any Paradox deal was on the horizon. I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt for Battletech and just got burned again. They were and are quick to promise DRM-free for a Kickstarter but then row back at the first sign of difficulty.

Your second point looks more like you have decided long before that Paradox is guilty, must be guilty, and set out to find dots to connect.

So Paradox explicitly decided to screw over a small subset of people (Kickstarter backers who don't already have a Paradox account nor an attention to get one). That's an extremely specific group of people to aim for with questionable returns, considering that group of people is more likely to be pissed off, write the whole thing down as a loss and don't proceed to buy any of the expansions. Like I did.
And then a bit later they offer the content in question as a low-priced DLC which does work DRM-free? The more simple explanation is stupidity and ignorance, not malignancy (so pretty much the whole point of Hanlon's razor).

There are legitimate gripes to have with Paradox (I have some) but you are constantly droned out by people who just have an ax to grind, no matter what.