I feel offended and triggered by you calling me "small" !!!! :o)
Let's just say that like Tom Cruise with my 1m70, I'll say we're not tall..... ^o^

And for "insane", hum well, better not to raise this issue.... :o)

It's not that bad. It's not like this thread has gone off on a tangent talking about dieting or something :P

small and delusional ?

no we moved to scientology now

You weren't asking, and that's not even a reasonable question given that your diet is the low-carbohydrate one (like all the other low-carb diets which are exactly the same), which induces ketosis. The "Diet" section even talks about the difference between dietary and nominal ketosis. I mean, ketosis and the "ketabolic cycle" (not to be confused, I suppose, with the catabolic cycle) is where your diet gets its name.

Gimme a little credit, huh? I don't just throw words around and hope some of them stick like pasta to a wall (tortured metaphor: 1 point).

I'm an ocassional Reddit lurker, but what I could make out:

It seems Victoria (/u/chooter) was let go without an explanation (at least to other mods) and forward notice. AMAs pretty much depended on her so the hell broke loose. Other mods seem to also protest a lack of communication between the mods and admins (or rather slow communication).

Anyways, people are saying for a while that Reddit sinked in quality in the last 3 years. That seems to be true. If you look up Reddit in Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, before 2012 the Reddit's main page contained all kind of news: tehnical, political, scientific, etc... Today it contains mostly "funny pics" and memes. It looks more like a copy of 9gag than what it used to be.

P.S. I wouldn't say Reddit is forum, although it does host discussions and picture posts too. I think the main idea is/was in sharing and commenting on links. :)

Reddit's always burning down.

Yeah, thus the well-wishing. I've done more than a whirlwind tour of diets (first for body building, then for body shaping, and finally, well on the far side of 30, for "oh god please make some of this horrible flobbyness go away"). I've seen some pretty textbook cases of taking diets to the extreme, and the worst of them have all been the low-carb fad diets. I guess the only silver lining is that if you go way too far with carb cutting, you pretty much can't keep it up forever since OMG COOKIES ARE SO GOOD.

That may also be why I've never been in a fitness magazine XD Shame; I think I'd make a great "before" model >.>

Yes, I didn't use a question mark, my bad. I kind of assumed saying 'If you meant..." that that would be enough to imply that I'd be interested in knowing whether or not that was actually the case.

You still didn't highlight anything though. All you've said so far as that yes there are downsides and linked to the wiki, but the wiki barely contains downsides except the ketoacidosis section. Well that and you seem to have an issue with low carb diet 'fads', which certainly has been the case in the last few years, but that doesn't mean there's no merit to (some of) it.

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You could always come join us at /r/gog were still open for all. ;)

Yeah, no doubt. But I'm not a) qualified or b) interested in giving out dietary advice, especially to people I don't know. Without - at a bare minimum - some idea of your diet, exercise, and schedule, I couldn't make any recommendations that would be worth the ten seconds to read them.

If you read through some actual articles on ketosis (if we're sticking with the Wikipedia article, then I'd go with the dietary publications referenced in the "ketoacidosis" section - because you want to know what to avoid, and the articles cited there are specifically clinical evaluations - and the "Controversy" section, because you've got a selection of pro- and con- research) then you should pick up on the downsides, which you mentioned not knowing about. You should know about them.

And if anyone ever tells you your breath smells like paint thinner, you've gone too far and need to eat a muffin. ^_^

EDIT: to the second part, yeah, I have an issue with fad diets. Low-carb diets are the quintessential fad diets - but that doesn't mean they don't work. They certainly work to lose weight in the short and medium term. But I've been listening for 20+ years to fat people who get winded climbing stairs tell me how you have to cut carbs and that's how to look great and feel great(Atkins, South Beach, Hollywood, Paleo, you name it, all the same thing, all the time), while I eat spaghetti, lasagna, and pizza (all to moderation) and just exercise all the time. My problem, I suppose, is more with fad dieters than the diets themselves (though somewhat with the diet). You might think I'd know better than to carry that baggage into a new conversation. I should know better.

I don't know better =)

Some of them are fad diets, but you can't burn fat if you're consuming too many carbs. Fats get stored as fat; proteins are stored as protein and carbs are stored as glycogen. Sometimes people will lose fat on a low fat diet, but that tends to suck big time as you have to make some rather significant cuts to your intake and you're probably just losing water/muscle anyways.

If they're still fat, They weren't doing it correctly. You need low carb in order to force the body to raid the fat stores. Sugar will always be the first source of fuel as that's what it's there for. Most of the time when it comes down to it they don't really want to lose the weight and aren't as serious about it as they claim to be. It doesn't take long or much effort to drop 10kg, I did that a few months ago and it only took like a month. I wasn't even particularly hungry while I was doing it.

EDIT: OK, the alternative is fasting, but either way you have to burn through the glycogen stores before the body will start to burn fat. Right now I'm about 10% body fat and 178 pounds, and it wasn't much work. Some calisthenics to force the body to retain muscle and only eating when I was actually hungry.

While technically true, that's so misleading that it should count as false. You can eat a diet of nearly 100% carbs and lose weight like crazy, as long as you are burning more calories than you consume. That's the only diet that actually works; every diet that isn't "Look, I'm sorry, you need to stop stuffing your fat face and actually exercise" is just a way to "trick" people into eating less (or eat just the right foods so that your body doesn't process them efficiently and loses a bunch of calories to excretion) so they consume fewer calories than they burn.

I mean, there wasn't an epidemic of obesity in southeast Asia a century ago when rice - nearly pure carbs - was the vast majority of many low-income diets. It's not about the carbs, that's what I'm so sick of hearing. Carbs don't mean anything unless you're actually already lean and muscular and want to dehydrate and "thin" your skin for showing off your physique. For weight loss, carbs mean nothing. Only calories count; and counting them going in isn't half the story, so that's an incomplete solution, too.

Having lived in China, I can tell you that it's not even remotely like you're suggesting. They ate a lot of carbs, but they were starving most of the time. And now that they have more food you see an awful lot of fatasses going around, even on the traditional diet.

They weren't having problems with obesity for the simple reason that they were starving most of the time. And they were also stunted. They were also puny, lacking muscle and quite tiny. Now that they have enough food, you're seeing the inevitable obesity rates creeping up as the stature increases as well.

As I already noted, you can also fast to get rid of the fat, but you have to know how to do that safely and effectively or you'll burn so much muscle that it becomes pointless.

And then you go and write two paragraphs of exactly what I just said. Of course I chose China for you; you were there for, what two years? Three? I remember. But it also obviated the need for anecdotes, which are generally useless.

I went to 4% (or 7%, depending on if you think calipers or the electrical resistance test is more accurate) body fat and Barbie-like proportions (which sounds strange for a man) eating nothing but prunes, red beans and rice, and salad vegetables (with one pizza or calzone every other week because there was no way I was keeping that diet for two years otherwise); and exercising 12-15 hours a week. That's a moderately high-carb diet; I wasn't starving myself; and I ended up stronger than when I was on active duty in the military. So there's your anecdote; largely useless. But I could also tell you about the steakheads I worked out with, and how many of them kept a 40/40/20 carb/protein/fat diet and bulked up like madmen. Or link you to dietary journals and research publications. But I'm not going to bother, since you want carbs to be your enemy. Have an enemy, and you can focus on a diet. Focus on a diet, and you may well end up as healthy as you can get; and I'm not about to let an ideological difference get in the way of that.

Hate carbs. Matters naught.