Posted December 22, 2020
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1. Cyberpunk 2077 is still on the shelf in China, and it has Chinese native voiceover! How could it be censored if a game has Chinese native voiceover?
2. The content of "Taiwan Independence" is from Cyberpunk 2020, not 2077. Those Chinese netizens are attacking the wrong target.
3. I don't mean to negate the existence of censorship in China, but our administration is still not that Orwellian. Also, if a game is "offensive", it would have been banned from the beginning, not now.
4. Trolls are trolls, even they're '50 cents', and even inside our Chinese community. Their radical demands don't represent the voice of Chinese community.
5. Please, please stop your baseless depiction on a censorship on GOG.com. The Chinese government is unable to influence the platform based outside their border. Also, I have never heard of any official boycott of a single category of products from any country after 1978 here.
6. The problem of Taiwan is merely an internal affair, not an international problem. Please bear in mind that even in the constitution of Taiwan, they claim the territory of Mainland China. This is not the same with border frictions with India, Philippines, Viet Nam, Malaysia, Japan, or any other countries.
7. GOG.com is a platform for creating pleasure and happiness, not a platform of creating villains and enemies, nor a platform to clash with political controversies. If you insist to do so, show your proof instead of merely criticize. Oh, the Chinese community won't use English in their daily discussion, so learn Chinese or consult a native Chinese before you want to express your objection.
2.It's actually a real world fact that the communist ursurpers refuse to recognize that Taiwain *IS* the lawfully elected government of China.
3. Your terrorist controlled occupation zone's so called "leadership" has literally executed people for sharing humorous memes on the internet.
4. Whether they do or not, they're state actors carrying out state orders to push censorship and threaten citizens of actual countries instead of occupation zones.
5.That's a blatant lie on your part given the very long and consistent history of communist demanding censorship of works abroad for literal decades, and periodically achieving it.
6. The existence of the communist occupation zone and it's false claims to be a government remains a global problem. I and many others look eagerly forwardto the restoration of lawful government to the mainland, not the least reason being it'll prevent the deaths of over 100 million people occuring in the mainland again.
7. You're in an English language forum of a Polish software developer with significant numbers of English speaking employees. It is clearly not much of a burden to you to actually speak a language of a free people, perhaps because English *IS* the global lingua franca and I suggest you do so. Noone on the planet owes you anything for simply existing, much less to use a language more then a third of your own people don't speak simply because the occupation zone never standardized one.
So it's easy to create yet another angry thread against Gog but it's also very important to remember that they are not the first to bend the knee to no offend China, not the worse, and sadly they won't be the last.
Steam removed some game (not to mention that Devotion is not back there despite the devs seemingly wanting it to be sold)and works with Chinese authority to create a China friendly Steam, Epic is partly owned by Tencent, and while good old Tim assure us that it has no impact, you usually you avoid needlessly offending your business partners, and let's not talk all the others companies or even governments.
So while I agree that Gog handled it extremely poorly, especially in the middle of the whole Cyberpunk controversy, and I am very annoyed by it, it is still important to remember that in the grand scheme of things it only a water drop in the ocean, so getting all offended at Gog while ignoring that it's the norm and not an exception, that nearly everybody does the same, is not helping.
2. Election doesn't make a government lawful, power does.
3. Our government won't execute people for just sharing memes of the "leadership". They dislike them, they ban them, but they don't execute people for it.
4. '50 cents' are quite spontaneous. The state supports them, but it don't order them.
5. I know it demands censorship of works abroad. But it seldom succeeded outside its area of control.
6. You just don't understand that we were a period behind western civilization that time. Most of our people do criticize and get angry at what it did that time, but they won't bring it down for now.
7. I'm not intended to say "Please speak Chinese when you want to express objection to me here". What I'd like to say is "go to Chinese internet community, learn what they say, and analyze what they really think, rather than using information from English community reporting the Chinese community". I'm not negating English as lingua franca in GOG.com or in any international community, I'm emphasizing that the difference of recognition based on language barriers can be significant.
8. I'd like to extend this topic a little. In Frostpunk, Chinese players often ignore the protests or pursuit of freedom. They just go to totalitarian and make the most of productiviity. The final screen of this game says "Was it worth it?" Of course! We survived! Do you think that Chinese people are out of the period of worrying about their survival? If you want to judge a regime, make a thorough research, imagine if you're the citizen of that country (or go there and live for three decades), and avoid simply using "good/evil" as a final word.
9. Since the forum is filled with hostility towards my home country, this will be my last reply in this community. There are many things I want to explain, but they're too deep or too hard to understand for anyone outside China. The Communism is not the main reason for today's situation, the hostility towards it is.
