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I guess this was expected, no surprises there.
Alas, not that surprising. With Wii U and 3DS software releases winding down and the NX still some ways off, this kind of result was to be expected. As soon as they announced that the NX wouldn't be out until March 2017, I knew Nintendo was in for a rough fiscal year.

That said, it had to be a conscious choice on their part to bid their time. On top of that, Nintendo has been undergoing significant expansion and restructuring in recent years. Once the NX is unveiled, we will finally see the culmination of many of those efforts. No matter what happens, it's certainly going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.
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snowkatt: despite pokemon go's succes the first financial quarter ( the financial year ends in march ) is mostly doom and gloom for nintendo
Actually it's all doom and gloom now that investors realised Pokemon Go isn't actually a Nintendo game :D
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Gandos: Alas, not that surprising. With Wii U and 3DS software releases winding down and the NX still some ways off, this kind of result was to be expected. As soon as they announced that the NX wouldn't be out until March 2017, I knew Nintendo was in for a rough fiscal year.

That said, it had to be a conscious choice on their part to bid their time. On top of that, Nintendo has been undergoing significant expansion and restructuring in recent years. Once the NX is unveiled, we will finally see the culmination of many of those efforts. No matter what happens, it's certainly going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.
Unless the end result is something idiotically stupid or so obviously behind the times that Nintendo pulled another Wii muscle.
Now that NX is rumored to be a hybrid, I hope it will get a solid support from all Nintendo's developers. As long as they price it right, I'm content with having NX solely as an all-Nintendo machine.
The only way for Nintendo to avoid bankruptcy is to release all games on GOG with emulators.
Eh, if only..
Post edited July 29, 2016 by phaolo
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Catshade: Now that NX is rumored to be a hybrid, I hope it will get a solid support from all Nintendo's developers. As long as they price it right, I'm content with having NX solely as an all-Nintendo machine.
Don't count on it. Notice just how slow of a drip-feed WIi-U users were left with.
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Darvond: Don't count on it. Notice just how slow of a drip-feed WIi-U users were left with.
According to Nintendo's own figures, they released 39 first-party games on WiiU - yes, that's quite a slow drip-feed. But on the 3DS front, they released 71 first-party games so far.

So, if Nintendo is betting all their fortune on one hybrid handheld-console NX, we may get more output from the combined forces of Nintendo's inhouse developers. Well, at least that's what I hope for...
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Catshade: According to Nintendo's own figures, they released 39 first-party games on WiiU - yes, that's quite a slow drip-feed. But on the 3DS front, they released 71 first-party games so far.

So, if Nintendo is betting all their fortune on one hybrid handheld-console NX, we may get more output from the combined forces of Nintendo's inhouse developers. Well, at least that's what I hope for...
71 isn't exactly a high number either, when you take into account of taste and interest. For example, in my case you could eliminate every pokemon game. That knocks off about 10, Mario Spinoff titles takes out about the same, the lego series is a ditto, get rid of the shovelware and most of the 3D classics, and suddenly my list looks quite like the WIi-U's full catalogue.
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phaolo: The only way for Nintendo to avoid bankruptcy is to release all games on GOG with emulators.
Eh, if only..
Haha! That'd be great! Maybe Nintendo should turn to software for the Mobile phone, PC and/or Console market, if the NX fails. I mean, nothing else seems to work for them of late so far.
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phaolo: The only way for Nintendo to avoid bankruptcy is to release all games on GOG with emulators.
Eh, if only..
Honest question: aside from a few cheesy knockoffs, have they ever released their ip on pc?
Post edited July 29, 2016 by paigosa
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phaolo: The only way for Nintendo to avoid bankruptcy is to release all games on GOG with emulators.
Eh, if only..
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paigosa: Honest question: aside from a few cheesy knockoffs, have they ever released their ip on pc?
Not that I know of.
Personally, I'll be happy if Nintendo hardware fails and they end up releasing all their games for PC. Same for the rest of the consoles, of course. I have some interest on the Fire Emblem series, but since they won't release it on PC and I certainly won't buy a console just for that I can't play it.
None of this is a surprise as I used to own both. The 3DS library was great...around 2013. After that I grew tired of the pricing, proprietary hardware and vagrancies of the eShop and sold off nearly every 3DS title I owned (except ANYTHING named "Etrian Odyssey" as I want to be cremated with them). Since then, other than Square Enix's Bravely Default I can't think of a single reason why I should care about 3DS or the NN3DS hardware (being a busy 38-year-old finishing a degree has mostly to do with it).

My WiiU ownership experience was even worse (this was before the Splatoon days); I only owned the machine for about six months. Despite owning all of the decent first-party titles available (SM3DW, Hyrule Warriors, MK8, Toad's TT, SMBU), I only used the machine to catch up on my Hulu queve and to (begrudgingly) play MK8 online with friends. None of the third-party titles (the few that were available) appealed to me, and I had issues with the gamepad controller. I sold it and never looked back.

The problem is that with the exception of the Pokemon franchise, Nintendo is still attempting to hold their initial gamer group (the gamers that bought the NES/FC back in the 1980s). The only reason why Wii succeeded more than any other console is that MY generation needed an easy-to-use interface and hardware that didn't break the bank - a machine that allowed one to play some games after a hard day at work - and that had robust software libraries (Gamecube AND Wii games).

They keep trying to lure US back through nostalgia instead of doing what Sony has had NO problem doing - hooking the next generation as well as keeping the previous generation entertained. The new generation doesn't CARE about Mario as much as Call of Duty, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls or Deus Ex, and MY generation is sick of Mario but will indulge in Nintendo's experiments (only sparingly). Sony and Microsoft on the other other hand know that there's a TON of people spoiled on high-poly black/red/brown/grey-toned gaming, and they've successfully cultivated tastes to appease them as well as keep previous generations hooked. Gamers who moved from Mario 3 and Mega Man to Sonic, Vectorman and Streets of Rage to Final Fantasy VII, Ape Escape, Suikoden II and Street Fighter Alpha 3 up to the games of today (Uncharted 4, FFX Remastered, SFV, The Witness, the reborn Ratchet & Clank collection) - THAT'S the way to gently feed doses of nostalgia while appeasing the pre-Apocalypse generation.

Am I surprised by any of the news posted? No. Do I expect them to perform a last-ditch rallying effort before the NX launches in March? No. As much as I like Nintendo, they've repeated the same mistake that Atari and Sega have done: failed to perceive and adjust to changing market trends while satisfying both the old and the new.

I'll end by saying this: next year I'll be a 39-year-old staff accountant and bachelor. With my future income, I can guarantee that I will NOT be decking out my apartment with a 65-inch screen with a NX hooked up to it, nor will I run in, drop my leather case on the coffee table, and grab my NX to play Pokemon. Try a living room PC with all of my DRM-free games stored on my personal server and using a DS4 controller instead...or a book with some jazz instead.

Sorry Nintendo. You were fun, but my generation has outgrown you.
Post edited July 29, 2016 by TodaysLoneWolf
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TodaysLoneWolf: [..]
Cool post +1