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General discussionNEWS: GOG Galaxy to start selling EPIC games(1045 posts)(1045 posts)
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Posted October 08, 2020
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Fender_178: My question is why would GOG work with such an Anti-Consumer company like Epic knowing thanks to their PC exclusives prevented sales of games to them not just Steam at the game's launch? It must have been a very good contract for both companies especially GOG to even negotiate such a contract.
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tfishell: Is the enemy of the enemy my friend or my enemy?
I see Epic as the enemy because of what they stand for. Epic sees Steam as an enemy. Not sure how GOG sees Steam though. GOG must see Epic as a Friend for whatever reason. Also GOG and Epic had business dealings with each other. That is how Jazz Jackrabbit was able to be sold here at GOG.
Posted October 08, 2020
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adamhm: GitHub seems to have been going downhill since they decided that meritocracy is a bad thing anyway.
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mrkgnao: Can you please elaborate a bit on this, even though it's off topic? I know what GitHub is, but otherwise I have no idea what you're referring to and I'm curious.
Can´t help you much but Github was bought by Microsoft like a year ago, you can imagine how open source comunity was pissed...
Posted October 08, 2020
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This is very sad. I just noticed this (7 days after it happened) and also went to see the thread in the Galaxy sub-forum.

For an important news as it is, i agree with others in that this is a shady and sneaky way to present it. In my case, as i said, i know it only thanks to this thread that lead me to the "official" one. I don't use Twitter or Galaxy but this is not something that only affects Galaxy users, but all GOG users.

Selling Epic Store DRM games through GOG...wow, just...i'm speachless, this really hurts a lot. Imo, it's a big (BIG) step in the wrong direction, a path that leads to DRM and who knows what more. It's also a big contradiction of what GOG is supposed to be (or was supposed to be officially, now i am not sure anymore because they hide it and not talk openly, as they did with other past changes)

That's not integration, that's not just allowing players to run a game from another platform (with drm and logging in those other platforms anyway), it's selling Epic Store games in exchange for a profit. It's selling your own principles, those that you still defend officially while doing this kind of things at the same time. "Con la boca pequeña" we say in spanish, and as it don't have an easy translation, more or less means: to talk out of both sides of your mouth.

I tried to read the whole thread, and among a lot of valid and good arguments i noticed this:

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toxicTom: If that's "value" nowadays, then I'm probably too old to understand it.
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GameN16bit: Obviously, you are not the target audience then.

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Disclaimer: I do not work for GOG.com, nor am I paid by GOG.com. All views expressed in this post are my own, and do not represent the views of GOG.com or it's employees. My views are expressed as a fan, gamer, and fellow GOG user... that is all. Thank you.
I must be also too old and not the target audience. I'm only a veteran gamer with some principles i refuse to surrender, and it's worrying that a GOG mod (even if he says to speak on it's own) could make me feel like a stubborn minority they don't need or want to hear. Maybe we are a minority out there, but i don't think we are here, inside GOG (and that goes also for the veteran GOG employees that i'm sure would be also ashamed but unable to say anything)

Really disheartening :(

Cheers to all of you that are still there, fighting. #FCKDRM
Posted October 08, 2020
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Kakarot96: This is very sad. I just noticed this (7 days after it happened) and also went to see the thread in the Galaxy sub-forum.

For an important news as it is, i agree with others in that this is a shady and sneaky way to present it. In my case, as i said, i know it only thanks to this thread that lead me to the "official" one. I don't use Twitter or Galaxy but this is not something that only affects Galaxy users, but all GOG users.
That's a good way to put it. Thanks for your post; it's nice to see new (to me) voices speaking out and interested in these topics. "Shady and sneaky", indeed! It reminds me of how they started posting the GWENT topics in the general forum, where the title of the topic specifically avoids mentioning GWENT by name and it's worded as something cool-sounding, only for you to open the topic and realize they're just shilling their DRMed game. Seems to me they know what they are doing. Some corporate suit decided that this is how the company should communicate to its customers, instead of offering honest responses to questions.
Posted October 08, 2020
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mrkgnao: Can you please elaborate a bit on this, even though it's off topic? I know what GitHub is, but otherwise I have no idea what you're referring to and I'm curious.
It happened a few years ago, it's basically political correctness (they decided that it was sexist/racist or so). They also did another thing more recently with "master" now being considered an offensive term too.
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rjbuffchix: Seems to me they know what they are doing. Some corporate suit decided that this is how the company should communicate to its customers, instead of offering honest responses to questions.
They must know what they're doing, the way they announced it and by announcing it right before launching their 12th anniversary sale. Seems like they're doing their best to announce it in such a way that it gets overlooked/generates the least negative reaction. Also, it's nearly been a week since their last (and only so far) response to the community's reaction to this news... I guess they're just waiting this one out now.
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Posted October 08, 2020
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mrkgnao: Can you please elaborate a bit on this, even though it's off topic? I know what GitHub is, but otherwise I have no idea what you're referring to and I'm curious.
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adamhm: It happened a few years ago, it's basically political correctness (they decided that it was sexist/racist or so). They also did another thing more recently with "master" now being considered an offensive term too.
Wait... NANI?
I haven't heard about the master thing... You mean the BRANCH NAMING scheme?
Is this for real? And just WHAT would devs be supposed to name it anyway?

What's next?
They remove "Git" from their naming because it's a part of "Git Gud"?

Or somebody reatroactively changes "master / slave" naming on buses such as ATAPI?

Are people making these decisions INSANE?
Posted October 08, 2020
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B1tF1ghter: Or somebody reatroactively changes "master / slave" naming on buses such as ATAPI?

Are people making these decisions INSANE?
Yes. I think its stupid as well. And will lead to confusion.

Basically they said 'Master' and 'Slave' are offensive so for the retro hardware you cannot use those terms now.

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Posted October 08, 2020
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B1tF1ghter: Or somebody reatroactively changes "master / slave" naming on buses such as ATAPI?

Are people making these decisions INSANE?
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RoboPond: Yes. I think its stupid as well. And will lead to confusion.

Basically they said 'Master' and 'Slave' are offensive so for the retro hardware you cannot use those terms now.

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Yare yare... So it ALREADY happened?... Honestly, I pulled this example out of my head as it was supposed to be example of "future stupidity" but I guess somebody already have done it :P
We have an epidemy of major stupidity in this civilisation as the current world order stands.
But sh*t like this is a whole new level and I really don't like where this is going...

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Also the level of hypocrisy is astonishing.
When they simultaneously don't see terms such as b**ch offensive and MANY people "in the west" incorporated it into their daily language.
Post edited October 08, 2020 by B1tF1ghter
Posted October 08, 2020
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B1tF1ghter: Wait... NANI?
Yep. And "blacklist" and "whitelist" are now... racist...
Posted October 08, 2020
I can't wait until black bars are racist. I mean everyone hates them right? How do I get rid of those black bars????? is this gaem support widbe screen?
Posted October 08, 2020
How many words do they want to own? I guess I can't use "own" either because that might trigger someone. Are they going to censor all of the rap music so it sounds like Morse code?
Posted October 08, 2020
What GOG does. Use add blocker or script to block this tread. Ignore it. just wait .......and then introduce more changes that they want to do as a company. repeat.
Posted October 08, 2020
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DoomSooth: How many words do they want to own? I guess I can't use "own" either because that might trigger someone. Are they going to censor all of the rap music so it sounds like Morse code?
Knowing hypocrisy of these people probably only "white" music.
Since, you know, "these people" excuse their excessive language (I would call it actual rasicm actually) as "part of their culture" and whatnot.

It's crazy how people put up with all this BS.
Posted October 08, 2020
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Greywolf234: What GOG does. Use add blocker or script to block this tread. Ignore it. just wait .......and then introduce more changes that they want to do as a company. repeat.
I mean now that BLM has been mentioned, I'm sure there'll be a blue one here soon enough to lock this thread for offtopic & politics. Great excuse to shut off this discussion.
Posted October 08, 2020
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Not the best idea to take things off-topic, as it's the only thread with good examples of why the idea is bad, and hopefully, GOG would take the time to look at it.

Don't provide a reason for it to be locked away
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