Posted December 09, 2020
victorchopin
Laika's man
Registered: May 2011
From Congo, Republic of
coffeecup
GOG is dead.
Registered: Mar 2010
From Vatican City
Posted December 14, 2020
high rated
Well, it is now comfortable to sit in a comfy chair and watch the burning house, alongside popcorn.
I was really surprised that Cyberpunk 2077 comes with its own launcher, looking a bit like the battle.net launcher. This begs the question why GOG Galaxy does not deliver enought for CDPR :-)
Just prepare for the worst, buy 2 huge USB drives (the second one for a mirror) and get your GOG library there.
I was really surprised that Cyberpunk 2077 comes with its own launcher, looking a bit like the battle.net launcher. This begs the question why GOG Galaxy does not deliver enought for CDPR :-)
Just prepare for the worst, buy 2 huge USB drives (the second one for a mirror) and get your GOG library there.
B1tF1ghter
Execute order $rep_string
Registered: Jun 2015
From Other
Posted December 15, 2020
I was really surprised that Cyberpunk 2077 comes with its own launcher, looking a bit like the battle.net launcher. This begs the question why GOG Galaxy does not deliver enought for CDPR :-)
Just prepare for the worst, buy 2 huge USB drives (the second one for a mirror) and get your GOG library there.
Time4Tea
Free speech and honey!
Registered: Jan 2015
From United States
Orkhepaj
SuperStraight Win10 Groomer Smasher
Registered: Apr 2012
From Hungary
Dark_art_
🔴I'm just glad that cows don't fly YO
Registered: Dec 2017
From Portugal
Posted December 15, 2020
Edit: well, Gog search is awsome... Didn´t found the said thread but those are a good read:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/storage_and_organisation_discussion/page1
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_library_offline_backup
Post edited December 15, 2020 by Dark_art_
Vendor-Lazarus
Make GOG great again!
Registered: Jun 2019
From Sweden
Posted December 15, 2020
Up to 100GB discs available.
(Need a supported disc-player though)
https://www.mdisc.com/#
I've always wanted to try them myself, but I'm not sure they're even in my little country.
B1tF1ghter
Execute order $rep_string
Registered: Jun 2015
From Other
coffeecup
GOG is dead.
Registered: Mar 2010
From Vatican City
Posted December 16, 2020
Just do backup for your stuff and store at least one duplicate safely packaged away, and you are set.
Personally, I should restart doing the important private data putting on quality DVDs, I have some which are about 20 years old and are still bona fide readable. But currently, I'm looking into obtaining a good BD writer (not for games, but personal data) and you have written a good breakdown for the currently available media.
Post edited December 16, 2020 by coffeecup
B1tF1ghter
Execute order $rep_string
Registered: Jun 2015
From Other
Posted December 17, 2020
ALWAYS verify your backups.
I have seen in person people who recorded their optical media backups right in front of me, they did not verify them, and few months later it turned out they were unreadable garbage (and that was on TDK of all things).
ALWAYS calculate checksums on ORIGINAL data. Keep them safe (checksums). Preferably add checksum files to backup optical disc. Also keep them eslewhere (say for example password manager, or xls file in cloud).
Then each time you backup related data read from the backed up version and compare checksums.
Even the best backup is USELESS if you don't have 100% certainty the data is unchanged from the original.
Prepare yourself to squeeze your finances like a lemon.
Data archiving done PROPERLY costs MONEY, mountains of it.
I'm not expecting you to buy yourself archival grade optical burner (easily within few k euro).
But don't cheap out - DON'T EVEN BOTHER with "typical grade" burners - you can throw Asus, LG and the likes out of the window immeidatelly *.
Get yourself Pioneer (maybe also *some* Plextor and BenQ models). What model? Really depends on your needs. The higher end the better (generally, but also don't expect this to be "universal" drive, drives meant for archiving often for example don't READ UHD, etc).
Generally expect to spend no less than 150 euro on burner alone.
As for system compatibility - Linux works with basically everything, Windows is a lottery so do your research if you want to archive through Windows.
* Well, when I was buying my first BD burner like 2 years ago I wasn't as knowledgable as now and I bought ASUS (partially due to time constraints, I definitely didn't do my research then, and now I know uncomparably more on the matter) and thus I limited my ability to record media **.
** It's literally that certain specific models of high end discs cannot be recorded on lesser quality burners.
Pioneer generally records everything or close to everything (that can be obtained on free market, as for LITERAL "archival grade" it depends, check specsheets when in doubt).
Also:
disc brand means close to NOTHING in 99% cases. You need to dig info on specific disc models (manufacteur ID from disc debug data, plus bunch of other things).
(drive) You need to decide the right compromise between data recording quality and matters such as BD film ripping according to your own needs.
Because the 2 don't neccesarily go in par.
TLDR: It can be a problem to handle SOME BD film releases on very high end drives MEANT for archiving data but at the same time they would read the disc more "properly".
It may be a real pain to decide, but don't rush it or you will later regret it.
I'm writing this when tired AF so in terms of specific disc IDs - maybe some other time shall we? - and I really don't know when, I could name only very few just like that so I would have to refresh my research in regards to those.
I just want to point this out - we should really create a dedicated thread SPECIFICLY for optical media (afaik there isn't any on GOG) - as otherwise we could go on for multiple pages about this (very is REALLY MUCH to say), I could make one maybe in a week (I am busy indefinitely). Just saying.
TLDR for disc IDs: generally you are safe to get whatever is MANUFACTURED (not ORIGINATING, marketed for, labeled as, etc) in JAPANESE pressing factories (tho there is quality variance, AND whole product lines for specific use cases - such as TV broadcasting and others, so DO YOUR RESEARCH).
I could really say A LOT about proper backups. But sadly I would get crucified by mods for offtopic. So you can safely assume I will errect dedicated thread somewhere down the line probably within a month.
You know what?
It only NOW got to me that you said USB drives. And when originally reading it I immediatelly drew connection USB = pendrive.
So I guess you meant USB hard drives?
Because I would not use specificly USB denominator if I were you - it's too confusing - just say external drives next time.
I have seen in person people who recorded their optical media backups right in front of me, they did not verify them, and few months later it turned out they were unreadable garbage (and that was on TDK of all things).
ALWAYS calculate checksums on ORIGINAL data. Keep them safe (checksums). Preferably add checksum files to backup optical disc. Also keep them eslewhere (say for example password manager, or xls file in cloud).
Then each time you backup related data read from the backed up version and compare checksums.
Even the best backup is USELESS if you don't have 100% certainty the data is unchanged from the original.
Prepare yourself to squeeze your finances like a lemon.
Data archiving done PROPERLY costs MONEY, mountains of it.
I'm not expecting you to buy yourself archival grade optical burner (easily within few k euro).
But don't cheap out - DON'T EVEN BOTHER with "typical grade" burners - you can throw Asus, LG and the likes out of the window immeidatelly *.
Get yourself Pioneer (maybe also *some* Plextor and BenQ models). What model? Really depends on your needs. The higher end the better (generally, but also don't expect this to be "universal" drive, drives meant for archiving often for example don't READ UHD, etc).
Generally expect to spend no less than 150 euro on burner alone.
As for system compatibility - Linux works with basically everything, Windows is a lottery so do your research if you want to archive through Windows.
* Well, when I was buying my first BD burner like 2 years ago I wasn't as knowledgable as now and I bought ASUS (partially due to time constraints, I definitely didn't do my research then, and now I know uncomparably more on the matter) and thus I limited my ability to record media **.
** It's literally that certain specific models of high end discs cannot be recorded on lesser quality burners.
Pioneer generally records everything or close to everything (that can be obtained on free market, as for LITERAL "archival grade" it depends, check specsheets when in doubt).
Also:
disc brand means close to NOTHING in 99% cases. You need to dig info on specific disc models (manufacteur ID from disc debug data, plus bunch of other things).
(drive) You need to decide the right compromise between data recording quality and matters such as BD film ripping according to your own needs.
Because the 2 don't neccesarily go in par.
TLDR: It can be a problem to handle SOME BD film releases on very high end drives MEANT for archiving data but at the same time they would read the disc more "properly".
It may be a real pain to decide, but don't rush it or you will later regret it.
I'm writing this when tired AF so in terms of specific disc IDs - maybe some other time shall we? - and I really don't know when, I could name only very few just like that so I would have to refresh my research in regards to those.
I just want to point this out - we should really create a dedicated thread SPECIFICLY for optical media (afaik there isn't any on GOG) - as otherwise we could go on for multiple pages about this (very is REALLY MUCH to say), I could make one maybe in a week (I am busy indefinitely). Just saying.
TLDR for disc IDs: generally you are safe to get whatever is MANUFACTURED (not ORIGINATING, marketed for, labeled as, etc) in JAPANESE pressing factories (tho there is quality variance, AND whole product lines for specific use cases - such as TV broadcasting and others, so DO YOUR RESEARCH).
I could really say A LOT about proper backups. But sadly I would get crucified by mods for offtopic. So you can safely assume I will errect dedicated thread somewhere down the line probably within a month.
You know what?
It only NOW got to me that you said USB drives. And when originally reading it I immediatelly drew connection USB = pendrive.
So I guess you meant USB hard drives?
Because I would not use specificly USB denominator if I were you - it's too confusing - just say external drives next time.
Post edited December 17, 2020 by B1tF1ghter