I used Iran as an example, you're right there are many countries including many US allies. My point was more that this should not at all be controversial in Western countries, including yours. The fact it still is to some is a sad and pathetic thing.

GOG should fight against those places where some people are not treated equally, not bow before them like they did recently with China.

LOL, no. GOG should not be doing any of that. They're here to sell games and run a business. It's one thing to give a nod or shoutout to the LGBTQ+ community (like they did), which I thought was nice, but it's something totally different to "fight against" or actively shove a view down potential customers throats.

And just stop with the China thing, because right or wrong, everyone else is doing the same thing. Steam isn't selling Devotion, neither is EGS, or anywhere else.

You're probably a phony person yourself saying and acting that way right now, because you no doubt support China in some shape or form. You don't buy or use anything from China? You don't support or comsume media from companies that support or are "in bed" with China in some way (which is basically everyone)?

I see this time and time again from you, and many others, who talk a big game but are fake as ****. You want these companies to stand up and take a stand against China, but are you willing to do the same if it would be a major inconvenience to your life, or actually cost YOU money? It's always a big fat NO. FAKE.

It's all well and good to act a certain way, or outraged about something, when it's someone else compromising themselves or their business by taking a stand. It's the same as this LGBTQ+ topic here - Where post # 40 was right. It's one thing to act all accepting for something when it has no affect on you, but you might find you feeling totally different when it does.

Yeah, but it's not just slurs. Check out this meta-analysis paper (2011). This includes familial rejection, hostility, harassment, bullying, and violence also resulting in 20-40% of homelessness in 2 million youths in the US (2006). This stigma, prejudice, and discrimination leads to increased rates of mental disorders and lifetime suicide attempts and behaviour. In the US, LGB teenagers had 2-7x rates higher of suicide attempts than hetero teenagers, particularly for males. Same can be seen for older male demographics too with respect to lifetime suicide attempts.

Would be interesting to see sources here.

Fair enough, but how will I still get holidays off work?

Name, gender, nationality, etc. and any other applicable information on your birth certificate? Some couples try to come up with names or to understand the gender of the baby before they're born too. Yes, from what I'm reading, sexual orientation is not the same as gender identity. And yes, you're right about it not being a choice. However, if people want to discard preconceived identity from other people, then they can if they want to. No one is born gay or bi, but they can choose later in life to stay in the closet or to fully embrace it later. You have good points until you went on an tangent I can't quite comprehrend. Maybe instead of caricaturing someone having > 3 gender identities, the extreme fringe of +, you can focus more realistically on a single identity person to better help your case. What percentage of this community has 9 simultaneous gender identities? Anyway, as I listed above, there are serious consequences of discrimination leading to increased suicide rates. Surely they are disadvantaged in some way?

May I please get a source on this? Interested to know who is determining what is progressive and what isn't. What gives scriptures and teachings more importance than their cause? Both facets affect people's everyday lives with homosexuality long in ancient civilizations (e.g., indigenous communities, ancient China, ancient Greece / Rome, Mesopotamia, India, etc.), even older than some modern religions like Islam. The difference is that one has been long sanctioned by governments for a much longer period of time and may be national holidays depending on the country's demographics.

I just assumed, obviously there isn't an arbiter or anything. Reasoning is that of all the things to take pride in, its the uncontrollable things that someone should take pride in? Instead of making or working towards something to be proud of why take pride in an aspect of ourselves that we had no hand in choosing? Are humans amazing just because of existing?

I don't see any relation between festivals done within a religion to pride festivities today. The cause of any given religious festival isn't pushing the religion into the public conscience or to make people think about them. Basically, they're not PR or educational in nature. Either way, what I'm saying is that taking both festivals described in old books and festivals that celebrate who one has sex with too seriously is dumb.

I have another, very controversial suggestion - GOG should stick to selling games and not engage in politics, period.
Why quote marks? Considering how truth nowadays is offensive for Twitter, I would find Gab more credible indeed.

So when China hates smth, GOG can just block it for them only?
Then why couldn't Detention be blocked in China only and released for everyone else?

Because otherwise they send the VAIRUS...

Why is it needed/"needed"......because some think thoughts/hold stances/say words that some dislike? If say you think that it should be kept until everyone stops doing such and all/nearly all start thinking alike like some sort of zergling-like hive mind.....sorry, but that's likely never going to happen, as everyone has differing opinions/stances.

(yes, such free thought has some downsides, but i'd rather have variety of thought/stances with all the positives/negatives that come with it than the alternative)

So you're saying that I, an actual LGBT, am possibly mistaken?

Most parts of the free world give LGBT the same rights as anyone else, and in a number of cases, special treatment(in the case of companies, things like GOG's LGBT event, LGBT being given preference in new media being made by a number of film/comic/game makers, etc)

That's fine....that wasn't the main intent behind my reply anyways.

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I feel ya on that

*GR eyes own backlog warily*

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Probably because china would probably choose to block goggers**(current and future) in china from buying on GOG if GOG didn't remove it from the store entirely.

(**those not on v-p-n-s, I mean)

I wish China PR would block GOGers and Steamers because GOG nad Steam have [modded] "pride" sales. So Steam and GOG wouldn't be putting this [modded].

On the other hand - a comfy handy list of games to ignore.

Modded by Frambooos. Please refrain from using insulting language.