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StarChan: I hardly think anyone but you and I will be bothered to read this exchange, so when you pretend not to have edited the part of the post I set out in bold, it only affects you, and me. You know that the post was edited according to what I indicated, and I know, because I saw the text changing while I was replying to your post. So why the pretence?
I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. The before and after are completely visible in your post as the first was quoted before the edit and the second one after. Think what you want, it doesn't bother me if you deny the evidence in front of your eyes.
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SirPrimalform: Oh and finally, my post 56 was actually referring to your double quoting of my post 52. Since the second part already appears in the first quote I just thought it was weird that you made a whole new (merged) post to reply to that.
I think you meant to say posts 52 and 47. Enough of that. My reply to your post is a comment on that first statement of yours: 'We had an ended debate, that says nothing about your debate with amok.' What else is there has nothing to do with what you wrote after that initial sentence. Perhaps because what you wrote afterwards wasn't there at the time?

Should you start editing while I'm writing an answer to your post, the entire text will change according to the changes you make. If this has yet to sink in, I will refer you to a thread called 'Why the person above you should be banned.' Target page 1000 and see if you can otherwise make sense of what you see.

Edit: I will end this debate right here. I have seen on the 'Bitch about' thread that this specific exchange upsets another user, and we cannot have that.

I will allow for your reply, but that is as far as it goes.
Post edited April 24, 2019 by StarChan
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CymTyr: The next gen of xbox will have a discless one. I'm not sure on PS5 or not, but I DO know PS5 will have access to the ps4's digital and physical library. In other words, it will be backwards compatible, which is where PS4 lost this console generation.

MS is pushing hard for digital only and for restricting access. But keep in mind these are the same people that want to make Windows a subscription based platform - and it already is, they just don't charge us for it yet.

When it comes to OS"s I'm as lazy as they come, and I'm taking it on myself to learn the basics of Linux because if MS ever DOES force millions of people to pay to access win 10, I'm reinstalling win 7 on a partition and switching as much to Linux as possible.

I digressed here, but we have two potential outcomes on this path we're taking as consumers: We can either support digital only with no right of resale, or we can prolong the life of disc based systems. Your choice. They already got pc users to forget about disc drives in a lot of modern pc builds.
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Sarang: My question is will the PS5 be bc with PS3? I took it as a given that the PS5 would be backwards compatible with the PS4 but I need it backwards compatible with the PS3. PSNow does NOT have the the full audio experience with those titles so it is far inferior in my opinion and NOT a reasonable substitute.
Even IF it has backwards compatibility with PS3 I HATE the choice I have between Sony and MS as Sony is now CENSORING some titles and you outlined the problem with MS. Oh and these titles are on Steam so DRM. If I'm LUCKY it might be on the Switch but then what are the specs. on it for audio? 5.1, Lossless support? I know Wii U used PCM.
I think a 360 digital only model released LONG after the product cycle of the original with a 1 tb. or 2 tb. HDD and treated as a secondary market for those of lower income with aggressive sales and quite reasonable low prices as standard would've been brilliant. The specs. would also make the HDD standard swappable like the PS3 and 4 as well as firmware being updated to accept up to 256 gb. USB sticks. As for digital concerns look no further then 360's "Indie Games" some of which are exclusive and could be lost due to MS's DRM check for legitimacy, that it has to be online to even play.
edit: Oh and on a side note Sony is killing me as they will have a new PSVR model for PS5 which will likely be 4K with HDR. The problem is it will be wireless and I want a wired adapter option as I DON'T plan to use this primarily for my VR experience but movies and tv shows. I'm not thrilled to have my head baking with this just to watch tv/movies, I get it with games.
There's a rumor that the PS5 will be bc with 1-4 but only 4 in verified right now. The current PSVR headsets WILL work with the ps5, so you can keep your wired version, though it most likely won't have 4k, but who's to say?

I'm probably going with a ps5 over a new xbox next gen, because MS have been on record saying they want to bring even more xbox games to win 10.
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SirPrimalform: Oh and finally, my post 56 was actually referring to your double quoting of my post 52. Since the second part already appears in the first quote I just thought it was weird that you made a whole new (merged) post to reply to that.
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StarChan: I think you meant to say posts 52 and 47. Enough of that. My reply to your post is a comment on that first statement of yours: 'We had an ended debate, that says nothing about your debate with amok.' What else is there has nothing to do with what you wrote after that initial sentence. Perhaps because what you wrote afterwards wasn't there at the time?

Should you start editing while I'm writing an answer to your post, the entire text will change according to the changes you make. If this has yet to sink in, I will refer you to a thread called 'Why the person above you should be banned.' Target page 1000 and see if you can otherwise make sense of what you see.

Edit: I will end this debate right here. I have seen on the 'Bitch about' thread that this specific exchange upsets another user, and we cannot have that.

I will allow for your reply, but that is as far as it goes.
Womp womp.
I meant posts 52 and 56. My post 56 was about your double quoting of me in post 52.
I don't really care that you don't understand how the forum works. I don't have anything else to add.
Post edited April 24, 2019 by SirPrimalform
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amok: oh aye. nothing is forever, if that whats you want to argue. one day the sun will explode and entropy dictates the cold death of the universe. but until then, - digital goods can last. and perhaps by then we have the technology to move the cold shells of dead stars around to create digital patterns for Duke Nukem 3D to float around when the universe reach 0 kelvin
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StarChan: If next you start talking about quantum information and black holes, interesting though it be, this is where I leave. ;)
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You have to excuse my fellow countrymen. As events in the past week has shown, we tend to not play well with other people outside our own little "sphere".

:P
Post edited April 24, 2019 by sanscript
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DreamedArtist: I am amazed that Sony has plans to release the PS5 with a disc drive in it, I am happy about this and the fact that you can play all your PS4 games on it so win win tbh, I am even tempted myself on getting some PS4 games to play on the PS5 when it drops. Does anyone here know if that Samurai game Ghost and sekiro are any good? I been eying them at E3 and hope they both turned out well.
I think Ghosts of Tsushima has yet to be released. And Sekiro is a good game, depending on your expectations. If you expect it to be just like From Software's other games ( Dark Souls, Bloodborne etc. ) you might be disappointed. But if you're just looking for a good Action-Adventure with a historical/mythological Japanese theme, then you'll probably like it.
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sanscript: You have to excuse my fellow countrymen. As events in the past week has shown, we tend to not play well with other people outside our own little "sphere".

:P
Would it not be fair, when you hint about 'recent events' (in which you yourself had a part, if I'm reading your hint correctly), that you provide links to these eminently linkable events? Or do you prefer innuendo? Such as: Was this not the thread where you tried to make a case for sex as something everyone had a right to? If I didn't know better, I'd take you for an incel. Oh, wait. Do I really know better?
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StarChan: I think you meant to say posts 52 and 47. Enough of that. My reply to your post is a comment on that first statement of yours: 'We had an ended debate, that says nothing about your debate with amok.' What else is there has nothing to do with what you wrote after that initial sentence. Perhaps because what you wrote afterwards wasn't there at the time?

Should you start editing while I'm writing an answer to your post, the entire text will change according to the changes you make. If this has yet to sink in, I will refer you to a thread called 'Why the person above you should be banned.' Target page 1000 and see if you can otherwise make sense of what you see.

Edit: I will end this debate right here. I have seen on the 'Bitch about' thread that this specific exchange upsets another user, and we cannot have that.

I will allow for your reply, but that is as far as it goes.
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SirPrimalform: Womp womp.
I meant posts 52 and 56. My post 56 was about your double quoting of me in post 52.
I don't really care that you don't understand how the forum works. I don't have anything else to add.
Yes, well. Utter and complete denial works fine for prominent politicians, so why shouldn't it work for you. This 'debate' is now coming to an end and not a minute too soon. My time is precious and rather than waste it on you, I have a wall with a fresh coat of paint that needs to be watched as it dries.

Oh, and by the way: I don't speak Womp.
Post edited April 24, 2019 by StarChan
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StarChan: Yes, well. Utter and complete denial works fine for prominent politicians, so why shouldn't it work for you. This 'debate' is now coming to an end and not a minute too soon. My time is precious and rather than waste it on you, I have a wall with a fresh coat of paint that needs to be watched as it dries.

Oh, and by the way: I don't speak Womp.
You're still not finished? But you promised:

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StarChan: I will allow for your reply, but that is as far as it goes.
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StarChan: Yes, well. Utter and complete denial works fine for prominent politicians, so why shouldn't it work for you. This 'debate' is now coming to an end and not a minute too soon. My time is precious and rather than waste it on you, I have a wall with a fresh coat of paint that needs to be watched as it dries.

Oh, and by the way: I don't speak Womp.
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SirPrimalform: You're still not finished? But you promised:

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StarChan: I will allow for your reply, but that is as far as it goes.
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SirPrimalform:
Oh, you can breathe easy. I'm just having a bit of fun relating to the fact that you seem pathologically unable to leave an exchange without having the last word.
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StarChan: Oh, you can breathe easy. I'm just having a bit of fun relating to the fact that you seem pathologically unable to leave an exchange without having the last word.
I'm making a deliberate choice to reply here, I never said anything about stopping. I'm waiting for someone to arrive at work so I can do my job, I can't go anywhere to do anything more useful right now so I'm bored out of my mind.
You on the other hand said "I will allow for your reply, but that is as far as it goes". You can do it, I believe in you!
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StarChan: Would it not be fair, when you hint about 'recent events' (in which you yourself had a part, if I'm reading your hint correctly), that you provide links to these eminently linkable events? Or do you prefer innuendo? Such as: Was this not the thread where you tried to make a case for sex as something everyone had a right to? If I didn't know better, I'd take you for an incel. Oh, wait. Do I really know better?
Correct me if I'm wrong, you seemed to be the ONLY one desperate for an answer to that "problem".

Ok, let's have sex rolling on a conveyor-belt, just like food, water, drugs, medicine, and teddybears are delivered in the real world. There, easy enough. FIFY :P

Btw: I was actually hinting mostly at the person who made the "Seeking mature adults between 30 and 40. NORWEGIANS ONLY"-thread, but go ahead and have a "problem" with it :P
Post edited April 24, 2019 by sanscript
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StarChan: Would it not be fair, when you hint about 'recent events' (in which you yourself had a part, if I'm reading your hint correctly), that you provide links to these eminently linkable events? Or do you prefer innuendo? Such as: Was this not the thread where you tried to make a case for sex as something everyone had a right to? If I didn't know better, I'd take you for an incel. Oh, wait. Do I really know better?
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sanscript: Correct me if I'm wrong, you seemed to be the ONLY one desperate for an answer to that "problem".

Ok, let's have sex rolling on a conveyor-belt, just like food, water, drugs, medicine, and teddybears are delivered in the real world. There, easy enough. FIFY :P

Btw: I was actually hinting mostly at the person who made the "Seeking mature adults between 30 and 40. NORWEGIANS ONLY"-thread, but go ahead and have a "problem" with it :P
You should realize that this comes across as nonsensical to anyone who did not follow the original chain of posts. Not that anyone would be all that interested.

On a different note: Making apologies on behalf of your 'fellow countrymen' is as arrogant as it is ignorant. We are individuals here, not nations. I was considering posting a reply in the thread you mentioned to this effect, and would have included the statement 'sorry, but where I'm at, there are plenty of Norwegians already'.

National group hugging in this forum is cringeworthy. Stay away from it.
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sanscript: You have to excuse my fellow countrymen. As events in the past week has shown, we tend to not play well with other people outside our own little "sphere".

:P
I find that surprisingly different from the general notion I've had of norwegians so far, although based mostly on indirect interaction. The two or three individuals whose posts I had the pleasure of reading before this thread came off as normal people with adequate debating skills and reasonable opinions, you included.

Edit: (Granted that is a very small sample and not representative of the whole country, but eh, whatever. I'm not here to conduct any sort of statistical analysis or anything, just stating my experience so far. )

One point far (really really far) off the curve is an anomaly, but won't tarnish my notion unless I see more evidence than just the thread mentioned above.

Back on topic, I don't really care about what MS does to the xbox right now. The path they've been going for a few years now is only cementing my resolution to stay with (DRM-free) PC games. The same can be said about Sony. Until I see a change of direction they could announce the next iteration will come with a real unicorn or that the customer's face will be sculpted in the casing and I still wouldn't pay them 10 cents for it.

I could be inclined to play a few console-exclusive titles, but meh, I already have a fairly decent backlog as is.
Post edited April 24, 2019 by joppo
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Sarang: My question is will the PS5 be bc with PS3? I took it as a given that the PS5 would be backwards compatible with the PS4 but I need it backwards compatible with the PS3. PSNow does NOT have the the full audio experience with those titles so it is far inferior in my opinion and NOT a reasonable substitute.
Even IF it has backwards compatibility with PS3 I HATE the choice I have between Sony and MS as Sony is now CENSORING some titles and you outlined the problem with MS. Oh and these titles are on Steam so DRM. If I'm LUCKY it might be on the Switch but then what are the specs. on it for audio? 5.1, Lossless support? I know Wii U used PCM.
I think a 360 digital only model released LONG after the product cycle of the original with a 1 tb. or 2 tb. HDD and treated as a secondary market for those of lower income with aggressive sales and quite reasonable low prices as standard would've been brilliant. The specs. would also make the HDD standard swappable like the PS3 and 4 as well as firmware being updated to accept up to 256 gb. USB sticks. As for digital concerns look no further then 360's "Indie Games" some of which are exclusive and could be lost due to MS's DRM check for legitimacy, that it has to be online to even play.
edit: Oh and on a side note Sony is killing me as they will have a new PSVR model for PS5 which will likely be 4K with HDR. The problem is it will be wireless and I want a wired adapter option as I DON'T plan to use this primarily for my VR experience but movies and tv shows. I'm not thrilled to have my head baking with this just to watch tv/movies, I get it with games.
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CymTyr: There's a rumor that the PS5 will be bc with 1-4 but only 4 in verified right now. The current PSVR headsets WILL work with the ps5, so you can keep your wired version, though it most likely won't have 4k, but who's to say?

I'm probably going with a ps5 over a new xbox next gen, because MS have been on record saying they want to bring even more xbox games to win 10.
Yeah I can but I'd like a 4K OLED option without spending over $1K on a TV. I suppose I can buy one of those HMD's off IGG or does one of the HTC Vive's do 4K and HDR with an OLED display?
Post edited April 24, 2019 by Sarang