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Posted December 01, 2021
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I was very unhappy with GOG when they first abandoned the 'Good Old Games' philosophy and started shilling for full price new release games. Skirting around the 'No DRM' promise by simply selling keys to DRM active games on other platforms. My purchases of Good Old Games pretty much stopped at that point. For me, there was zero reason to buy current DRM games from GOG.

If CD Project is serious about returning to its DRM Free games for real? Then I expect I will be back to purchase some of those games as there are indeed some that I would like to have, and GOG is great at making sure they run will with current hardware and OS.

But, I am not going to support the platform if it continues to try to be a store front for DRM games.

Just my feelings on it.
YMMV
Posted December 01, 2021
So far all games on gog are DRM free. Well except maybe the ones mentioned here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1
Posted December 01, 2021
I'm pretty sure that when they say "return to their DRM-free roots" they just mean "remove added baggage, like Gwent". They very likely consider their current DRM stance to be adequate. I.e., multi-player games can use DRM if they like, and anything they do with CDPR games is OK as well, such as DRM-encumbered "cosmetic" DLC.
Posted December 01, 2021
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Innocente: I was very unhappy with GOG when they first abandoned the 'Good Old Games' philosophy and started shilling for full price new release games. Skirting around the 'No DRM' promise by simply selling keys to DRM active games on other platforms.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. The first sentence seems to refer to GOG rebranding and starting to sell new games, but the second I can only interpret as being about the deal with Epic, and selling their games through Galaxy... but those two events are years apart and have virtually nothing in common. I'm a bit confused.
Posted December 01, 2021
They never really strayed from the DRM-free core commitment.

What they rather should commit to is to stop "over-curating" and stop rejecting games, especially those with hundreds, even thousands of community wishlist votes to them and developers/publishers that WANT to release those games on GOG.
Post edited December 01, 2021 by CMiq
Posted December 01, 2021
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Innocente: I was very unhappy with GOG when they first abandoned the 'Good Old Games' philosophy and started shilling for full price new release games. Skirting around the 'No DRM' promise by simply selling keys to DRM active games on other platforms. My purchases of Good Old Games pretty much stopped at that point. For me, there was zero reason to buy current DRM games from GOG.

If CD Project is serious about returning to its DRM Free games for real? Then I expect I will be back to purchase some of those games as there are indeed some that I would like to have, and GOG is great at making sure they run will with current hardware and OS.

But, I am not going to support the platform if it continues to try to be a store front for DRM games.

Just my feelings on it.
YMMV
Eh? The vast majority of single-player games here are DRM-free. I think frustration can be channeled to instances of single-player DRM'd stuff like CP2077's map but otherwise I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Posted December 01, 2021
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Innocente: ...But, I am not going to support the platform if it continues to try to be a store front for DRM games...
This sounds like you should consider adding your name to the GOG Boycott thread. There have been plenty of previous threads from users unhappy at GOG's recent policy changes which have gone nowhere, whereas this thread has had for more traction. Please consider it.
Posted December 01, 2021
I an not happy with some decisions that the gog.com executives make, but I will not abandon gog.com and stop purchasing video games from gog.com at all.

Gog.com time and time again shows they listen to us.

Sadly they do not listen to me about one thing I want, because I am alone in this universe, maybe the next universe I am not alone.

Oh well.

The day I can see GameSpy get removed from every single video game sold on gog.com that uses GameSpy I will be very happy.

I am already very happy in the universe where this has happened.
Posted December 01, 2021
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Innocente: If CD Project is serious about returning to its DRM Free games for real?
The key word there is if.

But so far, all indications are that they aren't serious.

For example, why has there been no announcement about the removal of the DRM-gate from Cyberpunk 2077?

Likewise, why is there no announcement about the cancellation of the deal to sell EGS-DRM'ed games through Galaxy?

If GOG is serious about being a DRM-free store, then they should already have promised those things.

Instead, all that exists is their totally meaningless PR speak fluff statements, and zero concrete action that would give any actual weight to them.
Post edited December 01, 2021 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Posted December 01, 2021
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Innocente: If CD Project is serious about returning to its DRM Free games for real?
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: The key word there is if.

But so far, all indications are that they aren't serious.

For example, why has there been no announcement about the removal of the DRM-gate from Cyberpunk 2077?

Likewise, why is there no announcement about the cancellation of the deal to sell EGS-DRM'ed games through Galaxy?

If GOG is serious about being a DRM-free store, then they should already have promised those things.

Instead, all that exists is their totally meaningless PR speak fluff statements, and zero concrete action that would give any actual weight to them.
You know what, since I do not use GOG Galaxy at all, isn't GOG Galaxy Digital Rights Management (DRM) anyways, even though it is optional?

Like I do not care for achievements or auto updates at all so I will never use GOG Galaxy so I do not know.
Posted December 01, 2021
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Johnathanamz: even though it is optional?
With some games, Galaxy is not optional if you want to have 100% of the content, because for some content, Galaxy acts as a DRM-gate behind which that content is gated.

Also, GOG proudly announced that they will sell DRM-infested games from EGS through Galaxy, which makes Galaxy a de facto DRM store too.
Post edited December 01, 2021 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Posted December 01, 2021
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darktjm: they just mean "remove added baggage, like Gwent".
As i refuse to use Galaxy, i can't play Gwent, and thus it's DRM'd... or maybe it isn't but i can't download it, either way *shrugs*

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Johnathanamz: You know what, since I do not use GOG Galaxy at all, isn't GOG Galaxy Digital Rights Management (DRM) anyways, even though it is optional?
I'd consider it DRM, at least in regards to requiring it to play certain games.

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Ancient-Red-Dragon: With some games, Galaxy is not optional if you want to have 100% of the content, because for some content, Galaxy acts as a DRM-gate behind which that content is gated.
Are you referring to updated games or certain aspects of the game requiring Galaxy to work? (To note i agree just asking clarification)
Posted December 01, 2021
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Likewise, why is there no announcement about the cancellation of the deal to sell EGS-DRM'ed games through Galaxy?
I'd like to know how GOG benefited or currently benefits from selling EGS games through Galaxy. I can't imagine they receive much of a cut from sales there. If somehow GOG was able to strike a deal to bring games on the EGS here after their exclusivity period ended (or some similar deal), and we'll get more in the future, I'm a bit less likely to have concern over this like others do. However if Support is bearing a real extra burden having to do support for Epic Games, I'm okay with giving them more breathing room.
Posted December 01, 2021
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darktjm: they just mean "remove added baggage, like Gwent".
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rtcvb32: As i refuse to use Galaxy, i can't play Gwent, and thus it's DRM'd... or maybe it isn't but i can't download it, either way *shrugs*

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Johnathanamz: You know what, since I do not use GOG Galaxy at all, isn't GOG Galaxy Digital Rights Management (DRM) anyways, even though it is optional?
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rtcvb32: I'd consider it DRM, at least in regards to requiring it to play certain games.

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Ancient-Red-Dragon: With some games, Galaxy is not optional if you want to have 100% of the content, because for some content, Galaxy acts as a DRM-gate behind which that content is gated.
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rtcvb32: Are you referring to updated games or certain aspects of the game requiring Galaxy to work? (To note i agree just asking clarification)
We need to fight for 100% Digital Rights Management (DRM) free multiplayer then somehow.
Posted December 01, 2021
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viperfdl: So far all games on gog are DRM free. Well except maybe the ones mentioned here:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1
Also for people who like DRM free multiplayer (yes, it's real), please refer to this post:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drmfree_multiplayer_list_of_games_that_actually_are_100_drmfree/post1

This post could helpful too, but I'm not sure if it's still maintained by the OP:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/lists_games_that_need_galaxy_for_multiplayer_and_the_ones_that_dont
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