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Microsoft wants you to fall in love with Windows :)

https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/04/28/microsoft-windows-10-is-now-on-1-3-billion-monthly-active-devices/
liNUx WilL taKE oVEr aNY daY nOw!!!
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StingingVelvet: liNUx WilL taKE oVEr aNY daY nOw!!!
I say, your keyboard is facing some issues. Perhaps a new feature in Windows?
Only 1.3 billion?

Hmph. Unimpressive.

Think for a moment. Peel back the curtain on Android and MacOS. At the heart of their cores beats the heart of a Unix system.
Post edited April 29, 2021 by Darvond
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Darvond: Only 1.3 billion?

Hmph. Unimpressive.

Think for a moment. Peel back the curtain on Android and MacOS. At the heart of their cores beats the heart of a Unix system.
That's true, what's also true is that MS reached their goal. Sure, two years later, but they still made it. Somehow. And, as we can see, they still hold the PC market. "Would you kindly upgrade to 10? No? Then we'll do it for you, how about that..."
It's really quite simple: if Micro$oft would address the vast plethora of concerns and issues that people have with Windows 10, maybe even more of us would willingly switch over. Until the major privacy concerns and various technical issues/incompatibilities are addressed, I will be using Windows 7 until the day I absolutely can't do so anymore (which is, sadly, approaching faster than I would like). Even when I do install 10, I'm going to run a dual boot with 7 and just use 10 only for new games.
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StingingVelvet: liNUx WilL taKE oVEr aNY daY nOw!!!
It always has dominated server space, my young Padawan. Do not be so quick to assume desktop use is everything. The truth of the world lies beneath the obvious.

Do you think this site and forum are running on Windows?
Post edited April 29, 2021 by WinterSnowfall
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For lack of options...

Windows 7 is unsupported, Windows 8/1 is heading there (and the UI sucks) and Win 10 is bundled with every consumer PC.

The problem with Win10 is not only the spying and the lack of user control, but also the terrifying absence of QA at MS nowadays.

Buggy updates deleted all user data for some not only once but twice, and the problems had been reported by the beta users before. That is something that must never happen.
Also a printer driver shouldn't be able to crash the system - the recent BSOD on printing only shows how rotten the core system is. A shitty driver may crash, but it has to do safely. Seems like quality standards at MS are back at Win95-level.

And then the audacity to force updates on the users. If you do that, you should make it damn sure they work rock solid on every machine.
Q: How do you know there's a Linux user in the room?
A: He'll tell you.
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StingingVelvet: liNUx WilL taKE oVEr aNY daY nOw!!!
It totes will......by 2025 for certain!

Jokey lines aside: yes, I see some are mentioning servers and phones and whatnot, but everyone more or less is aware that the "focus" is on desktop/laptop OS percentages....a sector all versions of linux combined have never seemed to get more than single digit percentage totals on....even with Win10 and it's negative aspects.
Post edited April 29, 2021 by GamezRanker
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StingingVelvet: liNUx WilL taKE oVEr aNY daY nOw!!!
This is where Microsoft is "gently" pushing you:

https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/01/10/big-changes-could-be-coming-as-microsoft-prepares-windows-10x/

https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/01/03/microsoft-document-confirms-windows-10-cloud-pc-upgrade/

Who needs a PC anyway? Azure is your friend.

When it comes to the Windows 10 Sun Valley update later this year, somehow I can't get overly excited (either positively or negatively) about "rounded icons" or "new Start menu" etc. Maybe it is because Linux distros generally offer a plethora of different windowing system/GUI options with quite different looks and feels, you just use the one that you find suitable for you. I'm sure you can also select a GUI with round or rectangle or triangle icons, if you want, or change the icons yourself. I want oval icons!

Maybe the other reason is that I generally don't care that much about the GUI anyway, as long as it doesn't get into my way (which the current Windows 10 GUI admittedly does, with its split-brain division to the "legacy" and "new" user-interface, which is just damn confusing to the user). A GUI is merely there for me to launch programs and applications, as long as the generic GUI features are there (clipboard etc.).
Post edited April 29, 2021 by timppu
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toxicTom: For lack of options...

Windows 7 is unsupported, Windows 8/1 is heading there (and the UI sucks) and Win 10 is bundled with every consumer PC.

The problem with Win10 is not only the spying and the lack of user control, but also the terrifying absence of QA at MS nowadays.

Buggy updates deleted all user data for some not only once but twice, and the problems had been reported by the beta users before. That is something that must never happen.
Also a printer driver shouldn't be able to crash the system - the recent BSOD on printing only shows how rotten the core system is. A shitty driver may crash, but it has to do safely. Seems like quality standards at MS are back at Win95-level.

And then the audacity to force updates on the users. If you do that, you should make it damn sure they work rock solid on every machine.
I feel 8 (or better said 8.1) was but a bridge towards 10, think of something like an interim release. Sure, it is still supported (albeit not for long) and some people still use it, but on the whole 10 is at the forefront. It feels like 8.1 served more as a nudge into "the right direction", if you will.
In the grand scheme of things, all of this makes perfect sense for MS. Knowing they have a strong hold on the PC market, they are looking to expand into the cloud/server area. This shift has been noticeable ever since Nadella took the reins.
So, as a consequence, Windows took a back seat. One also has to consider MS sees 10 as the last Windows version, which will receive constant updates throughout the years. Not the greatest idea if you ask me. 10 is rotten at the core.
Sunny, with a chance of CLOUDS!
The future is in the cloud and there are numerous reasons for this to happen.
Post edited April 29, 2021 by patrikc
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CMOT70: Q: How do you know there's a Linux user in the room?
A: He'll tell you.
Q: How do you know there's a non-Linux user in the room?
A: He'll make the same old boring response that we've seen a thousand times before.
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“ I want to move Windows from people needing it – and knowing they need it – to loving and wanting it” - you could replace windows in that sentence with galaxy!

The simple truth with windows 10 is that it is full of bloatware and online tie ins, which is why people don’t love it. They have to use as frankly the <insert interface> <insert flavour> <insert kernel> Linux thing is far too much effort for anyone to actually use. I just want to turn the damn thing on and play my game, not spend the rest of my life looking through
https://distrowatch.com/

The problem MS has is they want to make things simple and unified for casual users (a large market share) and non tech users (its a growing trend, see clients for instance), and that means packaging things for the different use cases, and linking things to their defaults like one drive. For those of us who want our own control over things, and older dying out population, that is in conflict. Just got a new machine (nvidia 3080 FCK yeah!) and had to go through the process of cleaning the windows install. This was two hours or so of uninstalling lots of garbage, removing all the spyware, installing my own software suite etc.

It’s a sad fact, but one that will continue to grow, online will soon be the only platform, and users will have very little control over any of it. It’s through everything now, from computers, tv streaming, even things like utilities having “smart” meters which report directly back, simplify everything to make people nothing more than drones moving about (in fact automate cars so people can be moved about).
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nightcraw1er.488: The simple truth with windows 10 is that it is full of bloatware and online tie ins, which is why people don’t love it. They have to use as frankly the <insert interface> <insert flavour> <insert kernel> Linux thing is far too much effort for anyone to actually use. I just want to turn the damn thing on and play my game, not spend the rest of my life looking through
https://distrowatch.com/
Throughout the years I've had several experiences with various Linux distributions and I will admit I was generally dissatisfied. Partly because of lack of knowledge in the matter, which in turn led to frustration, partly because of how accustomed I was to Windows, convenience that is to say. Coming back to the Linux environment after a while I started discovering its flexibility and the progress it made in the meantime. Granted, there are still things I dislike, but on the whole I find it a superior experience to Windows. I will not say that Linux is on the same level as Windows when it comes to gaming, there are fundamental differences between the two in this category, but I am happy to notice its constant improvement.
I honestly think a distro like Linux Mint requires far less effort than Windows 10, especially regarding maintenance. Installing it is a breeze, you don't have to deal with all that bloatware MS keeps pushing, updates are straightforward and you are actually able to see what is going on with your system, unlike Windows. MS still has the generic naming system in place and a lack of transparency concerning updates. Sure, you can always follow a link to their KB database, but wouldn't it make more sense to learn all that in the OS itself?
Linux is able to adapt to your needs and level of knowledge. You want something simple, without much hassle? Ubuntu and its derivatives are there to fulfill such needs. You want to ramp it up? Then go for some of the other distributions.
There is a general misconception that Linux is difficult to use on a daily basis. I see it in a different light: it can be as easy or as difficult as you want it to be. For the most part, it's entirely up to you.
As a note, I recently did a clean install of Windows 10 only to have several undesired ads creep up on the system. Apparently I am in dire need of Bubble Witch, Candy Crush, Roblox and Mahjong. I absolutely despise such tactics.
Post edited April 29, 2021 by patrikc