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iainmet: Getting a load of crap via PM from a user named aviciii at the min, just blocked and reported.

Guessing this no mark thinks they are clever, just said I'm dumb in a PM and asking about Bards Tale so guessing this is another dupe account here no doubt.
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SirPrimalform: Same, Anasto likes to PM people and make panicky posts on the Steam forums when he's worried.
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aviciii: 1st: I'm poor and noone has ever gifted me anything on steam (even when i asked for cheap stuff)
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SirPrimalform: Bollocks, you've taken loads of stuff in the Ninja thread. If they weren't gifts, what were they?
Yeah sure. That's what you think. Blame it all on me.
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iainmet: Getting a load of crap via PM from a user named aviciii at the min, just blocked and reported.

Guessing this no mark thinks they are clever, just said I'm dumb in a PM and asking about Bards Tale so guessing this is another dupe account here no doubt.
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SirPrimalform: Same, Anasto likes to PM people and make panicky posts on the Steam forums when he's worried.
Yeah, I am wondering with all the info that we have dug up here that has been passed onto Steam what else they will actually do as they don't tell you what is happening with ongoing investigations.

I wonder if I contact GOG support in the morning to see if they will release the email addresses and I.P addresses to Steam so they have more to work with cross referencing accounts etc.

Its a shame, like I said previously, we have a great community here. Yeah at times we all as individuals may have disagreements on different things but when stuff like this happens we all band together regardless.
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aviciii: Yeah sure. That's what you think. Blame it all on me.
Well you did get loads of stuff in the Ninja thread, that's a fact. So people have given you games of their own free will and you still scam people.
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aviciii: Yeah sure. That's what you think. Blame it all on me.
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SirPrimalform: Well you did get loads of stuff in the Ninja thread, that's a fact. So people have given you games of their own free will and you still scam people.
To be honest i got around 4-5. And i'm being VERY honest. But yeah i got a few games. I've seen many people take advantage of others and getting away without a scratch and that's why i did this..
All of those are just excuses and cop-outs. No one is responsible for their actions except them self. To do this to good people, just because others have mistreated you is nothing more than the actions of an immature brat.

Life isn't fair, people are jerks, but not everyone is a jerk and to rip off someone/take from someone makes you no better than those who have mistreated you in the past. If I acted the way I have been treated growing up I would be a colossal piece of human excrement; one should always treat others the way they wish to be treated.

Apologies mean nothing, if there is no genuine feeling of remorse towards one's misguided actions. Saying one cannot stop because it's "too late" is also bullshit, stopping will eventually result in past indiscretions usually being forgiven, or at the very least forgotten.

Continuing to do such things only perforates an already ghastly wound, and to say "I have no choice" is seeking acceptance for something one can change. In conclusion, suck it up buttercup, stop your scamming and mosey along.
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I agree with you on everything you just said. If i could, i would show you that i am deeply sorry for what i did. I have been turning this into a sick game for me. A game which i though would entertain me if i continued to do such acts. I am TRULY sorry for what i did. I'm not asking for forgiveness because i don't deserve that.
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gameon: Does it make you feel good scamming people? I just want to know why it is you do it. Have you ever thought that it might be a good idea to stop?
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aviciii: That's a good question.
1st: I'm poor and noone has ever gifted me anything on steam (even when i asked for cheap stuff)
2nd: I've been bullied many times. I don't trust people anymore and nowadays i like to fuck with them. Unfortunately, that's how society "molded" me.
3rd: To be honest, i can't go back after causing all of this. I would, believe me. I just can't anymore.
4th: I'm bored.

I do think all of you deserve an apologie but i'm sure noone of you cares anymore about me.

Anymore questions?
Woops, I meant to quote this in my reply, my bad. LOL I doubt anyone thought I was referring to anyone else though...I hope...sorry everyone.
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aviciii: I agree with you on everything you just said. If i could, i would show you that i am deeply sorry for what i did. I have been turning this into a sick game for me. A game which i though would entertain me if i continued to do such acts. I am TRULY sorry for what i did. I'm not asking for forgiveness because i don't deserve that.
Someone trust this guy? Really? Please...
I don't think I should have to say this, but don't feed the damned trolls. The more discussion this gets, the more the behavior will happen. It's pretty obvious that this is more about trolling than the actual shinies.

Also, I really wish that GOG would do something about all the trolling in the fora in general. I realize that they're being idealistic, but once a forum goes bad, it's pretty much impossible to undo that and make it good again.

I thought hey were talking about getting more moderators for a while now, and AFAIK it's still just folks in Poland doing the moderation, which means there are long periods where noting is done, regardless of whether it violates policy or not.

Also, this really shouldn't be a shocking development, when you feed the pigeons you get more pigeons. When you give out free games, you get begzors. When you're doing trades you'll probably attract people that you wouldn't trust.

OTOH, GOG does have some responsibility here since they're allowing people to impersonate other members.
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hedwards: Also, I really wish that GOG would do something about all the trolling in the fora in general. I realize that they're being idealistic, but once a forum goes bad, it's pretty much impossible to undo that and make it good again.
Not a good idea considering many people seem to have the wrong definition of trolling in their heads and it is hard to tell if someone is trolling because it is hard to tell if someone is just sharing their opinions or purposely saying stuff to anger people.

Here, you can find out what trolling really means
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling&defid=4250942

What you suggest will probably result in people being banned from the forums or penalized some other way for simply sharing their opinions.
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hedwards: I thought hey were talking about getting more moderators for a while now, and AFAIK it's still just folks in Poland doing the moderation, which means there are long periods where noting is done, regardless of whether it violates policy or not.
AFAIK they don't have any moderators. Sure the admins do a bit of moderation occasionally, but I don't think they actually have any official responsibilities towards the forum.

Not saying we don't need more, just that currently we have none...
Post edited November 04, 2012 by SirPrimalform
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hedwards: I thought hey were talking about getting more moderators for a while now, and AFAIK it's still just folks in Poland doing the moderation, which means there are long periods where noting is done, regardless of whether it violates policy or not.
I believe the question did come up, but it ultimately was answered with "No, we don't believe in moderation because it wouldn't be just", or words to that effect. That being said, that was a long time ago, before the Blackout I think.

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hedwards: OTOH, GOG does have some responsibility here since they're allowing people to impersonate other members.
I'd say that they have more than just "some" responsibility, considering how this means that just about anyone here could be a potential target, including you or I. With things being what they are, it feels like either the GOG staff will have to step in and start bringing in mods, the community will have to go to greater and greater lengths to enforce accountability or honest with trades, or GOG will have to eliminate trading altogether.

In retrospect, I'm amazed that any of this didn't happen any sooner.
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hedwards: I thought hey were talking about getting more moderators for a while now, and AFAIK it's still just folks in Poland doing the moderation, which means there are long periods where noting is done, regardless of whether it violates policy or not.
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SirPrimalform: AFAIK they don't have any moderators. Sure the admins do a bit of moderation occasionally, but I don't think they actually have any official responsibilities towards the forum.

Not saying we don't need more, just that currently we have none...
Well, let's wishlist some forum moderators then that can be around during the poland staff's off hours. Hopefully some people who've had a little experience doing so, and try to get the blue names to seriously talk and look into it. We're already self policing in most senses, having a couple of volunteers active in this way wouldn't be much different.
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rampancy: I'd say that they have more than just "some" responsibility, considering how this means that just about anyone here could be a potential target, including you or I. With things being what they are, it feels like either the GOG staff will have to step in and start bringing in mods, the community will have to go to greater and greater lengths to enforce accountability or honest with trades, or GOG will have to eliminate trading altogether.

In retrospect, I'm amazed that any of this didn't happen any sooner.
I think some names are easier to impersonate that others are. But any name with _, w or m in it is particularly vulnerable to impersonation. A regex to weed out people trying to add an extra _ or that substitutes a rn for m would go a long ways. It wouldn't catch everybody, I'm not sure how they would deal with different numbers.
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hedwards: Also, I really wish that GOG would do something about all the trolling in the fora in general. I realize that they're being idealistic, but once a forum goes bad, it's pretty much impossible to undo that and make it good again.
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langurmonkey: Not a good idea considering many people seem to have the wrong definition of trolling in their heads and it is hard to tell if someone is trolling because it is hard to tell if someone is just sharing their opinions or purposely saying stuff to anger people.

Here, you can find out what trolling really means
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling&defid=4250942

What you suggest will probably result in people being banned from the forums or penalized some other way for simply sharing their opinions.
You weren't here 4 years ago, I was a lot nicer when I started posting. But after years of seeing all manner of idiotic, asinine and trollish things posted here without consequence, I like pretty much everybody else got to be somewhat less tolerant of it than previously.

Hammering down on a few of the obvious trolls would go a long way towards rectifying the situation. As it is, you have to go pretty far before the admins do anything, and often times action doesn't occur until hours later at which point rather than just telling people to cool off, they have to take more serious action.

You weren't here for GR's smut hut, I forget how long it took them to discover that gem and delete the images in it.
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SirPrimalform: AFAIK they don't have any moderators. Sure the admins do a bit of moderation occasionally, but I don't think they actually have any official responsibilities towards the forum.

Not saying we don't need more, just that currently we have none...
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QC: Well, let's wishlist some forum moderators then that can be around during the poland staff's off hours. Hopefully some people who've had a little experience doing so, and try to get the blue names to seriously talk and look into it. We're already self policing in most senses, having a couple of volunteers active in this way wouldn't be much different.
I've been an advocate for that for a while. I don't think they necessarily need to rule with an iron fist the way that I would, but the common view around here seems to be that they don't really care about enforcing the rules. And that's not really fair, but you don't see them stepping in much to tell people to knock it off and other sites would lock a flaming thread and either give folks a chance to cool down or just keep it locked.

Reminds me a bit of the broken window problem where things get bad because there's a perception that nobody really cares.
Post edited November 04, 2012 by hedwards
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langurmonkey: What you suggest will probably result in people being banned from the forums or penalized some other way for simply sharing their opinions.
I assume he was talking about people like irawesome who actually did troll the forums (and I suppose this would also include people like GameRager who registered and used multiple accounts), as opposed to be people like JCD-Bionicman who posted threads voicing unpopular opinions.