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General discussion"Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth" - Daedalic once again shows that they don't really care about GOG.(38 posts)(38 posts)
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Posted January 14, 2018
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MarkoH01: This is the second time I see "Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth" on sale on another platform (in this case WingameStore )
much cheaper than it is on sale on GOG.
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BlueMooner: The base price (29.99) is the same at both stores. I assume sales are created by the website, not the developer, so I would think that store is simply willing to undersell gog to try to get customers.

As for no updates, it's why I have my one-year rule, where I don't even consider buying games until they're at least one year old. That way I can see if bugs have been fixed, what patches released, what fan-made work is available, and how the game plays now. If the game was just a money-grab and the dev isn't supporting their game, I've lost nothing... no lost money, no wasted emotions, no frustration or resentment.

I have a large backlog (don't worry, I'll keep it in my pants), so that allows me to skip over indie games, new games, over-priced games, money-grab games, and games that devs "promise" to do x, y and z for... and never do.

Wait until games are old (good old games?), and then research before buying. Knowing what I'm buying makes things a LOT less frustrating.

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Forgot to add, there's always isthereanydeal.com to check for deals and discounts.
Stores usually need permission from the developers. Like when Batman Telltale was 50% off on Steam and like 20% here (don't remember the actual discounts) I asked GOG and it was actually intended as such by Telltale.
Posted January 14, 2018
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MarkoH01: This is the second time I see "Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth" on sale on another platform (in this case WingameStore )
much cheaper than it is on sale on GOG.
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BlueMooner: The base price (29.99) is the same at both stores. I assume sales are created by the website, not the developer, so I would think that store is simply willing to undersell gog to try to get customers.
It's like omega64 already said. Stores need the permission of the devs/publishers. And his experience with BAtman was the same as my experience with Pillars in the Winter Sale.

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BlueMooner: As for no updates, it's why I have my one-year rule, where I don't even consider buying games until they're at least one year old. That way I can see if bugs have been fixed, what patches released, what fan-made work is available, and how the game plays now. If the game was just a money-grab and the dev isn't supporting their game, I've lost nothing... no lost money, no wasted emotions, no frustration or resentment.
I know how to inform myself. So I did not buy in this case and not in the case of "Perception" (for which I still hope for an explanation by either GOG or the devs) but I am/was interested in these games so I would not say that there are no emotions because of that. In addition the fact that they treat customers here different still makes ma angry - no matter if there is money involved from my side or not.

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BlueMooner: Wait until games are old (good old games?), and then research before buying. Knowing what I'm buying makes things a LOT less frustrating.
I am not frustrated I am just a bit angry at a company I once loved (Daedalic).

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BlueMooner: Forgot to add, there's always isthereanydeal.com to check for deals and discounts.
Bookmarked since years :)
Post edited January 14, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted January 14, 2018
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MarkoH01: This is the second time I see "Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth" on sale on another platform (in this case WingameStore )
much cheaper than it is on sale on GOG. The last time was the Wintersale and I even told GOG about that (it was 7 Euro price difference anyway. I waited until the last day of GOG Wintersale but the price stayed so I did not buy.
I didn't see you complaining when Grim Fandango was given away for free on GOG while being on sale @80% at the Steam winter sale :p
different stores can have different sales *shrug*

aside from that it is interesting that apparently the game is sold on WinGameStore (and gamesplanet as well) without regional pricing. It's not just the sales discount that differs, it's also the base price for EU customers.
On Steam & GOG and co you pay your usual ~20% Euroland surcharge.
Post edited January 14, 2018 by immi101
Posted January 14, 2018
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MarkoH01: This is the second time I see "Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth" on sale on another platform (in this case WingameStore )
much cheaper than it is on sale on GOG. The last time was the Wintersale and I even told GOG about that (it was 7 Euro price difference anyway. I waited until the last day of GOG Wintersale but the price stayed so I did not buy.
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immi101: I didn't see you complaining when Grim Fandango was given away for free on GOG while being on sale @80% at the Steam winter sale :p
different stores can have different sales *shrug*
Of course they can but having such a high price difference the second time simply shows me how much Daedalic seem to like GOG and their customers. It's the second time in a short timeframe and it's not the only thing I was complaining about regarding Daedalic.
Post edited January 14, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted January 14, 2018
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immi101: I didn't see you complaining when Grim Fandango was given away for free on GOG while being on sale @80% at the Steam winter sale :p
different stores can have different sales *shrug*
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MarkoH01: Of course they can but having such a high price difference the second time simply shows me how much Daedalic seem to like GOG and their customers. It's the second time in a short timeframe and it's not the only thing I was complaining about regarding Daedalic.
given the number of stores available and the ever increasing number of sales I don't think the fact that this happens already the second time is particular noteworthy. It still is an exception rather.
And it seems wrong to say Daedalic doesn't like GOG. It's more that they particularly like WinGameStore.
Looking at the price history on isthereanydeal:
aside from WinGameStore, Steam & GOG did get the lowest price. Other stores had even lower discounts.


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the other points you mentioned in your first post are much more worthy to complain about. No argument there.
Post edited January 14, 2018 by immi101
Posted January 14, 2018
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omega64: Stores usually need permission from the developers.
Thanks, I didn't know that !


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MarkoH01: I know how to inform myself.
Wasn't implying you didn't. Was just sharing my own method in case anyone might like it.

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MarkoH01: In addition the fact that they treat customers here different still makes ma angry
Personally, I don't know all the ins and outs of why things are done, so I try not to get angry about things I don't understand (you may understand it), since there may be key factors I'm not aware of. One of the attitudes I try to live by is to consider what people offer, and accept or reject without rancor. If you offer me a job at a penny a year, I'll just decline. If you want to sell me a pizza for a million dollars, I'll just decline.

Companies aren't required to treat customers fairly, and I'm not required to buy their stuff. If you feel that a company is personally targetting you or your demographic in some bigoted fashion, then steal their games if it makes you feel better. No, it's not right that companies mistreat people, but unless we're talking about a local business and your country has laws/culture against it, there's not much one can do except shop elsewhere.

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MarkoH01: I am not frustrated I am just a bit angry at a company I once loved (Daedalic).
I'm sorry.
Post edited January 14, 2018 by BlueMooner
Posted January 14, 2018
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MarkoH01: I know how to inform myself.
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BlueMooner: Wasn't implying you didn't. Was just sharing my own method in case anyone might like it.
Sorry, I just noticed that this came out meaner than it was meant to be.

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BlueMooner: Companies aren't required to treat customers fairly, and I'm not required to buy their stuff. If you feel that a company is personally targetting you or your demographic in some bigoted fashion, then steal their games if it makes you feel better. No, it's not right that companies mistreat people, but unless we're talking about a local business and your country has laws/culture against it, there's not much one can do except shop elsewhere.
To be honest. I am totally aware of this (and btw stealing is NOT an option even though I don't like what a company did). Normally I see these things just the way you just described them. It was just that I got really angry seeing them again doing something unfair (at least in my eyes and at this moment) that I decided to post this here. Maybe just to feel a bit better. I never expected this to change anything and I don't often post suchg things.
Posted January 14, 2018
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MarkoH01: Sorry, I just noticed that this came out meaner than it was meant to be.
Retrospection?? How odd to meet someone who's clearly never been to Youtube. : )

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MarkoH01: Maybe just to feel a bit better. I never expected this to change anything and I don't often post suchg things.
I'd send a rant to Daedalic if I were you. Companies don't know how the things they do are perceived, and may not know people see it as discriminatory, or may not know people see it as a big problem. The more complaints they get, the more they'll know this. They still may not CARE, but at least they'll know.

And I always think it's better to share your thoughts with the people involved instead of strangers.

Hope you have a good day. : )
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