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MirkotheGamer184: people getting laught at and insulted because they dont have a specific achievement or reward that you get .
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Telika: Game achievements are already marvellously pathetic on their own, and I completely refuse to believe this. It would be just too beautiful.
Sadly its true .
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: The OP is right. It's ridiculous that some games have Achievements on Steam but not on Galaxy. That should never, ever happen. Galaxy games should always have as many or more Achievements than their Steam counterparts.

And Galaxy also needs a way for the user to display his/her Achievements to others who want to see them. Implementation of that that should be GOG's #1 priority. Without it, Galaxy Achievements is a disappointing, half-baked feature.

GOG users who don't like the Achievements feature need not ever use it. But not liking Achievements isn't a reasonable excuse to tell GOG users who do like Achievements that they need to stop liking them, and/or stop asking GOG to improve Galaxy Achievements so that GOG users stop being treated like second-class citizens in comparison to Steam users.

But these masses of other people that want this have a myriad of options for this, steam, uplay, blizzard, r*, etc.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: The words "want this" and "for this" in that statement imply that the services you mentioned are equivalent to what we want, but they are not. We want DRM-free games and Achievements all in the same one place, namely GOG. The services you mentioned don't do that, therefore they are not what we want.

these endless I want <xyz> feature from steam are getting quite annoying. This place IS turning into steam one little change at a time over years,
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Making GOG like Steam is not a bad thing --- up until the point when GOG becomes DRM like Steam is.

Other than being DRM (which is a deal-breaker), Steam has many features that make it better than GOG. For GOG to implement those same features only makes GOG better - so long as GOG does not go far enough to become DRM.

Drm free is just a gimmick to them which will be dropped or eroded over time (gwent for instance is not drm free and goblins only just). This is why there is so much anger and resent towards galaxy, we came here to avoid this and the things it represent
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: These are very valid concerns, but they need not be conflated with Galaxy Achievements. The issue of Galaxy Achievements and the issue of whether GOG will soon become DRM are two distinct issues that aren't related. Therefore, concerns over GOG becoming DRM should not be used as justification to leave GOG users with a gimped Achievements feature.
I agree on what you and other users are talking about achievements.

If a game has achievements in steam those achievements must be added to its gog version. And there should be a profile where to show the achievements. The example esque offline request for achievements has more than 2000 votes in gog, and those are 2000 sales of A game. Other requests like adding points to the achievements are also successful.

But it is also very important to add other options such as clud save, overlay or a future workshop.

I know many users to buy in gog because besides being free drm have added achievements or options like cloud save.

That if, there is a very important thing, everything should be optional. The gog guys should never force to play while being connected to the galaxy. Everything should be free. If a user does not want achievements, overlay, cloudsave, workshop ... he is In their right to play without those options.

And if a user wants achievements, overclay, cloud save and other options he is in his right to be able to have these characteristics.

However gog will grow as gog galaxy grows but always respecting that everything is optional.

I for example gog game because I want my games drm free, but also because it has a good platform like gog galaxy with achievements, or cloud save.Io much offline game because I travel a lot for work and gog allows me to play without problems both offline on-line.
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As an original beta member of GOG, I feel I should chime in.

I've seen a lot of changes. I've seen a lot of complaints. I've seen GOG and its parent company grow and learn, both from successful business choices, and listening to constructive feedback.

I haven't seen anyone post in this thread who has been here longer than me, apologies if I missed you. Does that give me a sense of entitlement? HELL NO. Does that give me more of a say than any of you? AGAIN I say HELL NO.

GOG was originally a place for classic games that were abandoned by devs and publishers. CDPR created GOG because at that time there was a great demand for these classic games to be playable on XP/Vista/Win 7 was just coming out around that time as well. I remember when they started carrying indie releases, people went through the roof. "THIS IS GOOD OLD GAMES! HOW CAN YOU BETRAY US?!?" The usual sense of betrayal and entitlement has followed every change that they've made over the years. It's kind of sad, but you have to remember the original demographic and main demographic of people are those who are against DRM.

I can see both sides of the argument, and personally the people asking for more features are being way more polite than those who are 100% certain that Gwent/Galaxy is the beginning of the end.

Galaxy is an optional client that you can run totally offline. You cannot do that with any other game client, including Steam, Origin, Uplay, Bethesda Launcher, Battle.net - it just can't be done. I understand you guys are upset about Gwent, and personally that's why I never downloaded it, BECAUSE of the DRM.

GOG is still the best alternative to Steam. Asking for more features in an OPTIONAL client is not heresy and should not be making you want to burn those of us with progressive minds, at the stake. We want GOG to grow.

I don't know about you, but GOG is getting some good quality games that just a few years ago wouldn't have had access to BECAUSE THEY ARE WILLING TO GROW AND ADAPT. There is no crime from adapting, unless they require DRM and Online mode on their games.

I know you won't read what I'm saying, and I also know you'll probably make fun of me or attack me in some way for it. There's a reason I'm not on these forums much anymore. It's those of you who complain every time GOG farts the wrong way, or any time a newblood comes to the forums and asks for help you crucify them. These forums used to be heralded as one of the best places on the internet, but sadly those days are gone and now you just keep fighting amongst yourselves and complaining about and against anyone with a different opinion. This hive think is dangerous, and leads to innocents getting hurt, just look at history.

None of you has the right to tell GOG what to do unless they start making DRM mandatory on all of the games they sell. At that point in time, I will be the first to walk away, you can bet.
~Leu
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Leucius: the people asking for more features are being way more polite than those who are 100% certain that Gwent/Galaxy is the beginning of the end.
Less asking than demanding, mind you. The "I'm tired of", "it's a shame" and the various "gog must" in this thread reek of the sense of entitlement that you seem to perceive on the other side. And personally, it's that level of demand, defining "achievements" as some common sense expectation and gaming requirement, that make my skin crawl, as a symptom of the facebookization of videogaming (amongst other gripes about the commercial and psychological purposes of this device). And it's an attitude that I find as obnoxious as you seem to find the anti-achievements whiners who whine against the pro-achievement whiners.

So yeah. Just to balance things out a little, here. This thread isn't a tantrum about GOG featuring "achievements", but about GOG not featuring more of them.
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Leucius: GOG is still the best alternative to Steam. Asking for more features in an OPTIONAL client is not heresy and should not be making you want to burn those of us with progressive minds, at the stake. We want GOG to grow.
The problem is, "it's still the best alternative to Steam" is just about the faintest, most pathetic praise possible, and the client is getting more an more optional with every change introduced by GOG. Our chief problem with the way GOG is changing is that it's becoming more and more like Steam. I think it's pretty obvious then that we'd be tired and frustrated with demands to make it more like Steam. And achievements, that superflous, vapid, pointless thing that only serves to "gamify gaming" and make up for short, bland and lackluster games is pretty much the best, most blatant example of the way gaming culture has evolved to bring us to this point.

So yeah, I appreciate you trying to be civil and a voice of reason, but I am not going to apologise for being the old man yelling at clouds. If those clouds are intent on raining on the what little remains of the gaming market and culture I have loved and been passionate about for years, then they can at least put up with my yelling. I do not owe it to them to stand there clutching nothing but a increasingly leaking umbrella in silence with a polite smile on my face.
Post edited July 07, 2017 by Breja
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Leucius: GOG is still the best alternative to Steam. Asking for more features in an OPTIONAL client is not heresy and should not be making you want to burn those of us with progressive minds, at the stake. We want GOG to grow.
Dear diary:

Today I learned that Brave New World is about progressivism, not dystopia. OMG, if only I'd known sooner, because this changes EVERYTHING!!! o.O
Post edited July 08, 2017 by richlind33