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jepsen1977: For me that game is Oblivion and for pretty much the same reasons you stated about Fallout 3.
Well, Fallout 3 was called "Oblivion with guns" back then. :)
So do you guys think I'd like Skyrim as well?
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jefequeso: So do you guys think I'd like Skyrim as well?
Skyrim is kinda like The Moon Sliver - you have to be willing to explore and put all the pieces together yourself in order to make sense of the world. It's a pretty game (when modded) and exploring and creating your own little stories in the game is important. If you only play for the main story then don't bother. You need to roleplay your character and pretty much only do what your character would do.
It's as much RPG as Pinball. That doesn't prevent it from being a pretty rad* game

*See what I did there?!

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real.geizterfahr: Yep. It's basically an Elder Scrolls game in the Fallout Universe. Forget about the story and start exploring the world. And that's exactly why I enjoyed it more than... New Vegas O.O *<i>duck and cover</i>*
Save some place for me too! I also enjoy 3 waaaaaay more than NV.
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jefequeso: So do you guys think I'd like Skyrim as well?
I think yes. As a game, it is pretty simple, way too dumbed down and the RPG aspect is trivial. BUT the feeling when you play it, it's ace-stounding. I have sunk +150 hours and never got to the fus ro dah part, because exploring the world and/or playing with mods is such a blast. It might be me loving the snowy setting, but just generating a character and getting lost in the wilderness of Skyrim is among my favourite things to do when gaming.

Besides, nowadays you can get the GOTY for < 10$ I think in a winter/summer sale, so if you like exploring and can overlook the oversimplified gameplay, I recommend it.
Post edited August 27, 2015 by javihyuga
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jefequeso: So do you guys think I'd like Skyrim as well?
I'm liking it, but I highly recommend SPERG. It reworks the perks system into something that I think is way superior to the vanilla implementation. I'm on my first playthrough so other than that I'm using very few mods, just a couple graphical things. What are you using for mod managing? For both Fallout (New Vegas though it works for 3 as well) and Skyrim I'm using the Mod Organiser.
I've been there. Mass Effect 2 is a terrible sequel, but when looked at as a game in its own right it's highly enjoyable. Perhaps more so than the sometimes needlessly fiddly original (planet scanning aside).

I appreciated Fallout 3's exploration from the outset. The characterisation and writing in general was very flawed, but I always loved the exploration part of it. So when I first started playing New Vegas I was disappointed. The exploration really, really sucked. In truth that never changed. But long before I reached Vegas itself I had learned to appreciate the fact it had succeeded where Fallout 3 failed and was much more of an RPG experience. One with some brilliant options come the end, compared with Bethesda's piss poor attempt at morality and failure at basic logic.
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Navagon: I've been there. Mass Effect 2 is a terrible sequel, but when looked at as a game in its own right it's highly enjoyable. Perhaps more so than the sometimes needlessly fiddly original (planet scanning aside).

I appreciated Fallout 3's exploration from the outset. The characterisation and writing in general was very flawed, but I always loved the exploration part of it. So when I first started playing New Vegas I was disappointed. The exploration really, really sucked. In truth that never changed. But long before I reached Vegas itself I had learned to appreciate the fact it had succeeded where Fallout 3 failed and was much more of an RPG experience. One with some brilliant options come the end, compared with Bethesda's piss poor attempt at morality and failure at basic logic.
Have you tried Dust mod?

Or less radical, run with Monster Mod+A world of Pain+Rumble Zones+Angel Park 2. There is also Enclave patrols/crushed vertibirds available as mods.

I have not experimented with it, but its possible to transform existing factions into much aggressive forms, so the gameplay would be really really challenging. Especially with Jsawer or similar hardcore mods.

Perhaps even mix TTW on top of it.
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Navagon: I've been there. Mass Effect 2 is a terrible sequel, but when looked at as a game in its own right it's highly enjoyable. Perhaps more so than the sometimes needlessly fiddly original (planet scanning aside).

I appreciated Fallout 3's exploration from the outset. The characterisation and writing in general was very flawed, but I always loved the exploration part of it. So when I first started playing New Vegas I was disappointed. The exploration really, really sucked. In truth that never changed. But long before I reached Vegas itself I had learned to appreciate the fact it had succeeded where Fallout 3 failed and was much more of an RPG experience. One with some brilliant options come the end, compared with Bethesda's piss poor attempt at morality and failure at basic logic.
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Lin545: Have you tried Dust mod?

Or less radical, run with Monster Mod+A world of Pain+Rumble Zones+Angel Park 2. There is also Enclave patrols/crushed vertibirds available as mods.

I have not experimented with it, but its possible to transform existing factions into much aggressive forms, so the gameplay would be really really challenging. Especially with Jsawer or similar hardcore mods.

Perhaps even mix TTW on top of it.
Thanks for the recommendations! I'll definitely try New Vegas again sometime and I'll definitely be using a mod or two when I do. Dust looks interesting. But personally I'm not so keen on over reliance on water and it does say in the description that you can die of thirst in your sleep. So yeah... that's a little off putting.

The other mods you mentioned look amazing though. Particularly the Monster, World of Pain and Angel Park mods. Thanks!
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Navagon: Thanks for the recommendations! I'll definitely try New Vegas again sometime and I'll definitely be using a mod or two when I do. Dust looks interesting. But personally I'm not so keen on over reliance on water and it does say in the description that you can die of thirst in your sleep. So yeah... that's a little off putting.

The other mods you mentioned look amazing though. Particularly the Monster, World of Pain and Angel Park mods. Thanks!
Mod or two? :) Last time, I played with ~80 mods :) And I am not even knee-deep into it. Today, the game can be transformed extremely. Just check out nexusforums.

Dust is ... different. Its compatible with TTW, meaning you can start playing in F3 and continue into FNV - with Cloud from Sierra Madre. Almost every faction is dangerous, cannibals, insane groups etc. there is only one quest - to escape from Mojave.


K, then I throw a few more, if you dont mind.

To fix various issues in games themself, without affecting performance - use Yukichigai Unofficial Patch (YUP) patch. You can skip FOOK or MMUE, they slow down or break stuff.

DKBullettime or Project Nevada Bullettime feature instead of VATS. Also recommend NVEC (New vegas enhanced camera) if doing 1st person play - can look on your foot etc.

If you don't use TTW mod, then you need to 1/3 your experience gain - there is a mod for it. Because said mods increase amount of zones drastically. Also "Roleplayer Start" will make char generation similar to fallout 1.

If you use TTW, I think there is a JSawyer addon to it, which reduces experience anyway.

So far, so good, just careful with mods adding perks and weapons, since they might easy break the balance.
IMHO the main problem with Fallout is actually "piles of crap". So I wouldn't install anything that allows you to craft stuff - unless you are exactly into this.

FInally, for managing mods, grab Fallout Mod Manager (not "nexus mod manager"), to merge small ones - that don't have a lot of changes and ammunition - use FNVPlugin. To make sure mods do not overwrite each-other item-wise, look up how to create "Merged Patch" on youtube, using FNVEdit.

Happy trails!
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Navagon: Thanks for the recommendations! I'll definitely try New Vegas again sometime and I'll definitely be using a mod or two when I do. Dust looks interesting. But personally I'm not so keen on over reliance on water and it does say in the description that you can die of thirst in your sleep. So yeah... that's a little off putting.

The other mods you mentioned look amazing though. Particularly the Monster, World of Pain and Angel Park mods. Thanks!
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Lin545: Mod or two? :) Last time, I played with ~80 mods :) And I am not even knee-deep into it. Today, the game can be transformed extremely. Just check out nexusforums.

Dust is ... different. Its compatible with TTW, meaning you can start playing in F3 and continue into FNV - with Cloud from Sierra Madre. Almost every faction is dangerous, cannibals, insane groups etc. there is only one quest - to escape from Mojave.

K, then I throw a few more, if you dont mind.

To fix various issues in games themself, without affecting performance - use Yukichigai Unofficial Patch (YUP) patch. You can skip FOOK or MMUE, they slow down or break stuff.

DKBullettime or Project Nevada Bullettime feature instead of VATS. Also recommend NVEC (New vegas enhanced camera) if doing 1st person play - can look on your foot etc.

If you don't use TTW mod, then you need to 1/3 your experience gain - there is a mod for it. Because said mods increase amount of zones drastically. Also "Roleplayer Start" will make char generation similar to fallout 1.

If you use TTW, I think there is a JSawyer addon to it, which reduces experience anyway.

So far, so good, just careful with mods adding perks and weapons, since they might easy break the balance.
IMHO the main problem with Fallout is actually "piles of crap". So I wouldn't install anything that allows you to craft stuff - unless you are exactly into this.

FInally, for managing mods, grab Fallout Mod Manager (not "nexus mod manager"), to merge small ones - that don't have a lot of changes and ammunition - use FNVPlugin. To make sure mods do not overwrite each-other item-wise, look up how to create "Merged Patch" on youtube, using FNVEdit.

Happy trails!
Wow! Thanks a lot!
I originally hated The Binding of Isaac Rebirth. OOOOOHHH I hated it so much. I hated the graphics, I hated the music, and I loathed the premise of the game. I had a friend come over and show me how to play it on his Vita. Once I figured it out I logged like 150 hours on it. I understand your pain.
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jefequeso: So do you guys think I'd like Skyrim as well?
Same engine, same problems. Play it on PC if you can and mod the graphics and apply the unmpteen patches to fix often game breaking bugs.

Aside from that Elder Scrolls lore is not as easy to dive into as Fallout.
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jefequeso: So do you guys think I'd like Skyrim as well?
If you love big beautiful open worlds to explore(it seems like you do) then Skyrim is a dream come true.
Fallout 3 is my favorite Fallout (I know - blasphemy!).

I really enjoyed it's particular 'open world', including the large ruined urban city areas and the sewers and subways. And with the GOTY including the DLC's, many of the game improvements found in FONV are part of FO3.

I know there are weaknesses in it's story, but I forgive those as I feel completely immersed by the world when playing it.

Hopefully the new one will be good in that way..
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jefequeso: *snip*
I went from bitterly hating Diablo 3 to almost loving it. It'd be a wholesale exchange of love if it weren't for its DRM scheme, but I can almost understand why, since the online portion prevents achievement hacking.

Other than that, I hated Kingdoms of Amalaur when I first got it. It feels like an mmo in single player format. I've yet to completely finish it, but whenever I play it, I enjoy myself.

-Leu