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General discussionIm getting sick of Games not working - GOG is forgetting what they were all about(59 posts)(59 posts)
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Posted November 03, 2017
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Lifthrasil: Well, Microsoft is known for not caring about backwards compatibility. And that was partially the reason GOG exists: to make old games run on newer system. That is part of what they offer. But they are having less success with that since Win10 - and the suspicion that it might be because they don't focus enough on that old core service, but too much on acquiring newer games and growing, is actually not that far-fetched!
Acquiring newer games and updating older games are two different tasks held by different persons with different job requirements. GOG, as was pointed out in the first answer, is looking for those who will be able to "make old software work on modern systems".
Posted November 03, 2017
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nightcraw1er.488: I think it is worth pointing out here that you are not restricted to one OS anymore. Nowadays you have many options available, free in a lot of cases, for instance dual booting, hdd swapping, emulation, virtualisation. It is not the case where you have to choose a side and only have win10 or 7 or Xp (although everyone should be against vista!). I still have 4 machines, one Xp, one dual boot win7 and mint, one with a hdd hot swap bay, and my main machine with win10 on, which I have struggled to find anything which doesn't run currently - not that I am saying there isn't something which won't run on it, but the hundreds I have played have been fine.
I still think 7 is slightly better than 10, however if you want the latest hardware or to run future games 10 will become standard and all the moaning about it in the world isn't going to change the whole industry. Add to that the fact that there are so many options for keeping the old ones and you now have a far larger and robust platform to play all games than we ever had before.
or use Linux and use either native source ports or Wine or even go further and beyond by using the GPU Passthrough for your Windows in VM on QEmu.
Posted November 03, 2017
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Crosmando: It's why I'm never going to leave Windows 7.
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Mr.Mumbles: Isn't that what XP users used to say? Yeah, good luck with that.
I still have one machine running Win 98.
Posted November 03, 2017
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Mr.Mumbles: Isn't that what XP users used to say? Yeah, good luck with that.
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TwoHandedSword: I still have one machine running Win 98.
Where do you get the stones from nowadays (since the Romans killed off the druids)?
Posted November 03, 2017
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TwoHandedSword: I still have one machine running Win 98.
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nightcraw1er.488: Where do you get the stones from nowadays (since the Romans killed off the druids)?
There's a henge in Wiltshire that nobody seems to be using.
Posted November 03, 2017
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nightcraw1er.488: Where do you get the stones from nowadays (since the Romans killed off the druids)?
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TwoHandedSword: There's a henge in Wiltshire that nobody seems to be using.
Make sure you file the correct permits. Little old ladies who work in those offices get a bee in their bonnet when the paperwork isn't right.
Posted November 03, 2017
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Olauron: Acquiring newer games and updating older games are two different tasks held by different persons with different job requirements. GOG, as was pointed out in the first answer, is looking for those who will be able to "make old software work on modern systems".
Let's hope they find plenty.
Posted November 03, 2017
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Crosmando: It's why I'm never going to leave Windows 7.
Let me know how you're doing in five years. :P
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Mr.Mumbles: Isn't that what XP users used to say? Yeah, good luck with that.
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TwoHandedSword: I still have one machine running Win 98.
You have a machine with Win 98. How often do you use it? :P

I was going to make a joke about how I have an original NES, problem is, if it wasn't for that stupid spring loader, I'd be playing it right now. :P
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Posted November 03, 2017
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tinyE: You have a machine with Win 98. How often do you use it? :P
It's the only one which will still run 16-bit games like Stars! I also used to run Arcanum on it (physical CD version) before I bought the digital version here.
Posted November 03, 2017
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TwoHandedSword: There's a henge in Wiltshire that nobody seems to be using.
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drmike: Make sure you file the correct permits. Little old ladies who work in those offices get a bee in their bonnet when the paperwork isn't right.
Just apply a Scone crack, and they shouldn't be an issue any more.
Posted November 03, 2017
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tinyE: You have a machine with Win 98. How often do you use it? :P
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TwoHandedSword: It's the only one which will still run 16-bit games like Stars! I also used to run Arcanum on it (physical CD version) before I bought the digital version here.
God I miss Stars. I still have the disc but no longer have my 98 machine. Can I come over?
Posted November 03, 2017
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TwoHandedSword: It's the only one which will still run 16-bit games like Stars! I also used to run Arcanum on it (physical CD version) before I bought the digital version here.
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tinyE: God I miss Stars. I still have the disc but no longer have my 98 machine. Can I come over?
Sure. I don't have to be back at work until 11pm tonight.
Posted November 03, 2017
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Lifthrasil: Well, Microsoft is known for not caring about backwards compatibility. And that was partially the reason GOG exists: to make old games run on newer system. That is part of what they offer. But they are having less success with that since Win10 - and the suspicion that it might be because they don't focus enough on that old core service, but too much on acquiring newer games and growing, is actually not that far-fetched!
So what's the baseline assumption here, then? That GOG can get every game in their catalog working on Windows 10? I don't think that's a reasonable assumption. Of course they're going to run into issues with some games. But if one does a quick search of the games using the filter to show Win10 compatible games, you get over 2000 results out of the 2182 games in the catalog. Which kind of puts the assertion that they're not trying update their games to Win10 in a different light.
Posted November 03, 2017
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GR00T: So what's the baseline assumption here, then?
My own assumption is that they're attacking the problem game-by-game, first identifying those that won't run or have have significant difficulties under Win10, prioritizing by sales volume and/or difficulty to fix.

But really, how many games were released pre-Win10? That's a whole lot of games to fire up on multiple hardware configs, play through a significant bit, note the problems, and then try to fix. Hopefully they're in touch with the publishers to see if they can offer any help, as well. And even with help it's going to take quite a while to work through the entire pre-Win10 catalog.

In the past year I'm batting a thousand on Win10 compatibility, but that's only on the dozen or so old-ish games I've tried. The good news is that this is a game- and tech-savvy community, and folks have been coming up with solutions for various compatibility problems for all OSes. Kudos to them, to be sure. Hopefully gOg is monitoring those case-by-case solutions to see if they can lead to blanket solutions that can be applied directly to the installers.
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