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tinyE: Speaking of Win10

Does Steam's Doom 3, original not BFG, work on it?
I run the CD version, and BFG on Windows 10. I got the CD patch from moddb. The steam version has that patch already, so it should be good to go.
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tinyE: Speaking of Win10

Does Steam's Doom 3, original not BFG, work on it?
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UltraComboTV: I run the CD version, and BFG on Windows 10. I got the CD patch from moddb. The steam version has that patch already, so it should be good to go.
I have the cd version too I just and getting sick of patching. :P
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Jemolk: Hey, not like it's just me. This was pretty big news in programming circles back when Win10 was released. Don't have a link right now, but a lot of techies were seriously alarmed by that one. Seems most normal users never got the memo, though. Oh, also, no one knows exactly what triggers it. Might just be on crash, but it sends so much data to MS that it's actually a legal hazard for professions with heavy confidentiality requirements, like, again, doctors and lawyers. Though maybe they've dealt with that by now. Not sure, I've been out of the loop on Windows stuff since around then when I just switched wholesale to Linux. Never looked back. :P
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deja65: I can still smell the NSA backdoor keys from the Windows 95 days.Good times ;).Cheers
Wouldn't bloody surprise me. Anyone who still thinks the NSA isn't spying on everyone after the Snowden leaks is gloriously naive.
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Jemolk: Heh. It's been pretty well known for a while that Win10 would send your information to Microsoft at various points without anything you could do to prevent it. It's bad enough that fairly likely any lawyer or doctor using Win10 for their work would be violating confidentiality laws.
Plenty you can do. Firewalls that block communication with various sources will stop any traffic I deem fit. It's not difficult to figure out.
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Jemolk: Don't have a link right now, but a lot of techies were seriously alarmed by that one.
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JMich: Yes. They were. Then they dug into it a bit more. Don't recall any more techies being worried, only people that recall an article of 2 years back that never got amended with the newer information.
And if you are talking about the "Windows 10 makes tens of thousands of connections even when completely offline", then do check the analysis of that "network analysis" (and I use that term loosely).
You mean this one? http://techgenix.com/clarity-windows-10-data-collection/

You're right, it's not as bad as I remembered. Still, the casualness with which so many of you disregard your privacy online is disconcerting at best. And "Other companies do it too!!" is not an excuse. I actually avoid google precisely because it also collects this data. You may also notice that certain applications require the ability to harvest your info and send it to MS to function properly. Then there's the obtuseness of opting out (data collection should *never* be opt-out, always opt-in, and should absolutely never make opting out a chore in the slightest) that was mentioned. So yes, not as bad as I thought, but still reason enough to be concerned about privacy, and reason enough to avoid Microsoft in general. Perhaps I was a bit hyperbolic at first, but my overall point is, I believe, proven correct.
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Jemolk: Heh. It's been pretty well known for a while that Win10 would send your information to Microsoft at various points without anything you could do to prevent it. It's bad enough that fairly likely any lawyer or doctor using Win10 for their work would be violating confidentiality laws.
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paladin181: Plenty you can do. Firewalls that block communication with various sources will stop any traffic I deem fit. It's not difficult to figure out.
Yeah, fair point. I was thinking within the OS itself, but you are definitely right about that.
Post edited November 10, 2017 by Jemolk
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JMich:
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Jemolk: Still, the casualness with which so many of you disregard your privacy online is disconcerting at best.
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paladin181:
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Jemolk:
That depends on the user. Some of us have nothing to hide. What do I give a shit if Microsoft knows about me? :P I'm not a pirate or a hacker. I'm not in Witness Protection. I don't partake in ID theft, I don't cheat on my taxes, and I'm not a child pornographer.

If they want to spy on me let them. :P I pity the poor guy who's in charge of that file. Watching paint dry has to be infinitely more exciting that delving into my private life. XD
Post edited November 10, 2017 by tinyE
No, that was an article that was new to me. What I got from that article though was "If you care about your privacy, do not use express setup and read through all the options", which is something that applies on any software (and not only software).
NVM

Rockstar seriously needs to eat my shit. :P
Here we are upset about Win 10, they have crap they are still selling that won't run on anything later than XP. :P
Post edited November 10, 2017 by tinyE
I personally don't use Windows 10, but if your unable to play your games due to a different OS...then I agree with you :P
Completely agree with you
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Jemolk: Still, the casualness with which so many of you disregard your privacy online is disconcerting at best.
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tinyE: That depends on the user. Some of us have nothing to hide. What do I give a shit if Microsoft knows about me? :P I'm not a pirate or a hacker. I'm not in Witness Protection. I don't partake in ID theft, I don't cheat on my taxes, and I'm not a child pornographer.

If they want to spy on me let them. :P I pity the poor guy who's in charge of that file. Watching paint dry has to be infinitely more exciting that delving into my private life. XD
Main reason you'd care is if you get annoyed with MS and others using your information to manipulate you or your freinds into buying crap you don't need due to being overly impulsive (which to be fair, is not an impression I ever got from you). Or, like me, just get irritated at people having access to tons of data they have no right to and never should have had permission for. It's not that I actually expect anything to come of it, not imminently anyway, but you can damn well bet that as eating away at privacy becomes normalized, more and more of it will be done. Sorta like the bloody microtransactions and lootboxes that are plaguing this industry right now.
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tinyE: That depends on the user. Some of us have nothing to hide. What do I give a shit if Microsoft knows about me? :P I'm not a pirate or a hacker. I'm not in Witness Protection. I don't partake in ID theft, I don't cheat on my taxes, and I'm not a child pornographer.

If they want to spy on me let them. :P I pity the poor guy who's in charge of that file. Watching paint dry has to be infinitely more exciting that delving into my private life. XD
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Jemolk: Main reason you'd care is if you get annoyed with MS and others using your information to manipulate you or your freinds into buying crap you don't need due to being overly impulsive (which to be fair, is not an impression I ever got from you).
I appreciate you thinking that but I have made my share of dubious purchases. :P
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JMich: No, that was an article that was new to me. What I got from that article though was "If you care about your privacy, do not use express setup and read through all the options", which is something that applies on any software (and not only software).
Yeah, well, that to me kinda sounds like the same thing that caused the massive uproar here about bundling Galaxy in with games and making it opt-out. I seem to recall you weren't nearly as pissed as the rest of us, even those of us like me who do actually double-check options every time. So...The OS isn't necessarily spyware, it just comes with a large number of features that constitute spyware, and you have to go look for them to opt out. That really doesn't sound benign to me. Especially with how they handled the "upgrade" where people actually had to download third-party programs to remove their prompt or you might come home from work or school and find your computer had "upgraded" while you were out because you weren't there to tell it "not now" for the millionth time. If they want any information of mine, that's enough to make me not trust them with it.
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Jemolk: Yeah, well, that to me kinda sounds like the same thing that caused the massive uproar here about bundling Galaxy in with games and making it opt-out.
Even though GOG handed the whole thing messily, I still believe most of the uproar was from people who think Galaxy has cooties. HereForTheBeer (I think) is the only one who had a complain that I view as legitimate, since the 120 extra MB meant about half an hour extra download time for him.

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Jemolk: I seem to recall you weren't nearly as pissed as the rest of us, even those of us like me who do actually double-check options every time.
I am one of those that double-check options every time. Which is exactly why I wasn't pissed (at all).

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Jemolk: Especially with how they handled the "upgrade" where people actually had to download third-party programs to remove their prompt
You are aware that you didn't need any third-party programs to do that, right? All those third-party programs did was make it "one-click" for you. Question is, what did those programs get from those that used them.
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tinyE: On the next "InfoWars"!
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Jemolk: Heh. It's been pretty well known for a while that Win10 would send your information to Microsoft at various points without anything you could do to prevent it. It's bad enough that fairly likely any lawyer or doctor using Win10 for their work would be violating confidentiality laws.
Please don't agitate the sheople, Jemolk. Their fragile, eggshell minds are easily scrambled.