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Elmofongo: Most of the guys I see railing against Konami and EA these days are all in their 30s.
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spindown: I really hope that's not the case. Most people in their 30s (should) have way more important things to worry about in their lives than trivial shit like the ending of Mass Effect 3, which games are sold by Target in Australia, or the feminist YouTube videos of Anita Whatsherface. I'm still not quite sure what Gamergate is and I don't really care enough to find out. I just like to play games and have a little fun.
Eh, the way I see it is new games are now a bit of a luxury, considering you don't even get a complete package at $60 anymore, so maybe it's the older gamers getting pissed off that they aren't getting the same quality or quantity as what they're used to.
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LoboBlanco: Fighting passion?

I thought this thread was about gradually stop playing "Street Fighter".
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Elmofongo: The thing is I don't know how to properly describe how I feel and what I think when regards to gaming. I just came up with "Fighting Passion" heck I was just going to say "Passion" only.
Ohhh, ok. Since you mentioned things that looked to me more like what I would describe as "internet dramas" and such rather than your sentiment towards gaming itself as a hobby I was a little confused.

Personally I´ve spent sometimes a long way without playing since I either lacked time or put it towards other activities but after playing again I had the same fun and interest, so I don´t really have that feeling, though, a friend of mine has the same thing you´re describing.
We joke that age doesn´t come alone it seems, like OneFiercePuppy said. Thing is it´s perfectly normal, as normal as those of us who never stop feeling the same way about games :P
We could say people is as old as they want to believe they are. But then again old people (and I mean old) play videogames too, so.
I see it this way. I agree with you on this Konami hate. We just don't have enough facts and some people will jump the gun and make things up. For all we know, Kojima may have asked for more money and when he didn't get it had a shit fit. Or made demands Konami didn't want to abide by. To me this sort of thing is between Konami and Kojima and we probably won't ever know exactly what transpired.

I'm also not into the "outrage" over developer decisions. Mass Effect 2 or 3 endings, who cares? The developers made a choice. You don't like it, don't buy it, buy something else. So just as I think its stupid for some people to rage over a limerick in a remote part of a game, I think its stupid to rage over developers choices in their art.
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spindown: I really hope that's not the case. Most people in their 30s (should) have way more important things to worry about in their lives than trivial shit like the ending of Mass Effect 3, which games are sold by Target in Australia, or the feminist YouTube videos of Anita Whatsherface. I'm still not quite sure what Gamergate is and I don't really care enough to find out. I just like to play games and have a little fun.
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LiquidOxygen80: Eh, the way I see it is new games are now a bit of a luxury, considering you don't even get a complete package at $60 anymore, so maybe it's the older gamers getting pissed off that they aren't getting the same quality or quantity as what they're used to.
Yup this is it. We're constantly getting ripped off. The younger generation doesn't know any better, so it's up to us to force the developers hand. I have enough time on my hands to skim news topics and figure out how corporations are slowly running our lives and they have had their hands in gaming for decades now. It's my job to ensure im not being ripped off, of anything.
Don't know what to say. Konami probably lost some money in the past, due to certain... Investments. Certain projects like trading card game didn't go too well for them, after they aged a bit. Also, too many resets. Castlevania for example. Maybe they are paying for the consequences of wrong/bad idea implementations? For wrong moves?

Still though, whatever they do, they do it terribly wrong. It doesn't make sense that Iga made a huge kickstarter success for an old style metroidvania, which Konami rejected since ages ago and written off expressly and vocally? Defying your fanbase's constant expectations, shutting off or rebooting badly old, mascot projects that were sort of unique mark too, depriving players of what they REALLY want to play even if they keep shouting and posting in DETAIL what this sh*t exactly is, well; all this reeks of this one, simple phrase: "Bad Decisions".

Don't expect me to cry for them. Or abstain from bashing them. They had it coming by themselves.

Well, EA. EA is your typical, mogul, corporate beach. They have been destroying franchises and buying good studios with even better games, only to turn them into crap right after, ever since i can remember.

They are no saints, ok, i agree, we understand. But them doing their thing against everyone's wishes, interests or expectations, well, they have it good; it could be far harsher and worse for them and they would totally deserve that. The same saying employed as an arguement FOR them, can be also used AGAINST them; "Corporations are not charity; they have to survive in a harsh, insecure environment so they have to make decisions that will probably disappoint many people, no one can blame them for". I add another phrase to it, then... "Gamers and BUYERS are NOT charity either; we do NOT *donate* money to them, we buy a product demanding/wishing/ordering for it to have some certain features, easily recognizable, keen with us, etc. Failing to get that we seek something else, elsewhere; while dropping one or two hatebombs, just in case".
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Elmofongo: Like whenever I see the latest shit storm against a gaming publisher or developer for say a game, an action a publisher does, a comment a developer says everyone rages while I just sit back and watch and just think of a rational or at least realistic point of view.
Welcome to the age of social media/internet/instant connectivity. For the most part, people don't actually stop to think before jumping on a bandwagon/over-reacting. They just post their initial reaction without taking time to cool off and think rationally. This is the age of knee-jerk (hell, it's beyond that, IMO).
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Elmofongo: Does anyone at least understands why I feel this way now?
I think a lot of people do. I'm sure I do. It's partially from a mob mentality where everyone hops on the popular bandwagon of the day, and partially from the fickleness of the crowd. On the one hand, we scream for a jihad against EA, Activision, and UbiSoft, et al., but on the other hand we're all too eager to forget whatever we were screaming at them for, and suck down all of their latest marketing and hype, while giving them as much pre-order money as we can.

No wonder why the gaming industry can get away with all of the anti-consumer/predatory business practices in the book. Because we not only let them do it, we practically beg them to do it to us.

For people who all see past the blind extremism, it's incredibly frustrating. On one FB gaming group I used to follow, everyone was practically orgasmic about Fallout 4 and EA's new Battlefront game. Despite the fact that we know nothing about these games and both companies have used exploitative business practices in the past. I was decried because I didn't buy into all of the hype along with the rest of them.

The only thing I can say is that moving past all of the anger and rage can be a liberating feeling, and I hope that it helps you gain a more balanced, and ultimately more contented perspective on gaming culture. It's helped me remember that there are more important things in my life that I need to pay attention to. Ultimately, in the end, it's all only just about video games, and with age and experience comes an understanding that a lot of things don't matter nearly as much as we thought they did. :)

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Elmofongo: I am in favor of Gamergate and I am against the likes of Anita and all these SJW Manjinas.

GamerGate showed to me how extremist and irrational the leftist are and they are not better than Right Wing Politics.
I think what GamerGate really taught me is how far the extremism I referred to above can really go, and that's true for both sides now. I may be labelled as an "SJW" (for whatever such labels are worth these days), but I have learned a lot more about respecting and appreciating other people even though we may disagree about matters of poltiics or society....and that there has to be a better way to talk about matters of sexuality and society, than to have two people screaming at each other (even though I'm abundantly guility of doing just that).
Post edited August 04, 2015 by rampancy
Yeah I got too old for this shit too and I'm only 4 years older than you.

Corporate scumbaggery and phony progressive bullshit (rabid shame culture and carbon copies of the arguments the far right used against the industry when I was growing up) really killed most of my passion for the industry.

The only studio that I genuinely love now is Wadjet Eye. I think they are the new gold standard of adventure games

Out side of a few youtubbers who have the genuine love and joy of the medium, the bullshit has definatly taken its toll.

Also Konami IMHO has dug their own grave. Incompetence should be ridiculed, that is ridiculed, not sending death threats and doxing. That's just sociopathy.
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Elmofongo: Like whenever I see the latest shit storm against a gaming publisher or developer for say a game, an action a publisher does, a comment a developer says everyone rages while I just sit back and watch and just think of a rational or at least realistic point of view.
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Coelocanth: Welcome to the age of social media/internet/instant connectivity. For the most part, people don't actually stop to think before jumping on a bandwagon/over-reacting. They just post their initial reaction without taking time to cool off and think rationally. This is the age of knee-jerk (hell, it's beyond that, IMO).
I think the tech and the tools outpaced our humanity and personal growth.

Or as A E once said:

"I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots."
Post edited August 04, 2015 by ScotchMonkey
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ScotchMonkey: Or as A E once said:

"I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots."
Downright prophetic, methinks.
Meh. *shrugs*
Your age does matter.
Getting a bit long in the tooth these days, chummer? Sometimes I suspect the Internet either makes people younger by ten years or ages them by ten years. Your passion is still there, it’s just more contained.
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Coelocanth: Welcome to the age of social media/internet/instant connectivity. For the most part, people don't actually stop to think before jumping on a bandwagon/over-reacting. They just post their initial reaction without taking time to cool off and think rationally. This is the age of knee-jerk (hell, it's beyond that, IMO).
Exactly. Today no one stops to think, gather the facts, form an informed opinion. There is no time for that. In two minutes a new hashtag will be trending. Why take time to learn about the matter? You can just read some popular twits and join the angry mob. And when your'e done with todays hate rally no.348 go and share some wacky cat photos.
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Coelocanth: Welcome to the age of social media/internet/instant connectivity. For the most part, people don't actually stop to think before jumping on a bandwagon/over-reacting. They just post their initial reaction without taking time to cool off and think rationally. This is the age of knee-jerk (hell, it's beyond that, IMO).
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Breja: Exactly. Today no one stops to think, gather the facts, form an informed opinion. There is no time for that. In two minutes a new hashtag will be trending. Why take time to learn about the matter? You can just read some popular twits and join the angry mob. And when your'e done with todays hate rally no.348 go and share some wacky cat photos.
Instant gratification. It will be (part of) the death of us all. Why bother doing research or feeling passionate about any kind of topic or subject matter when you can just look it up in 10 seconds on wikipedia or google? Instant knowledge at one's finger tips has actually created a giant lack of interest in knowledge. Too much of a good thing... not so much a good thing.

But yeah, gaming kinda sucks right now. Well, it's not so much the games that suck... more like the gamers themselves. Gamers have become self-absorbed, entitled, impatient, greedy know-it-alls. Kinda like, you know... everyone else in the world. I can barely summon the energy to even engage most people on the internet any more. For me, every single thought or sentence exchanged with another person turns into an interrogation by sadistic prison guards. Every comma becomes its own Gettysburg, every rant its own Dunkirk. It's... tiring.
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Elmofongo: Like whenever I see the latest shit storm against a gaming publisher or developer for say a game, an action a publisher does, a comment a developer says everyone rages while I just sit back and watch and just think of a rational or at least realistic point of view.
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Coelocanth: Welcome to the age of social media/internet/instant connectivity. For the most part, people don't actually stop to think before jumping on a bandwagon/over-reacting. They just post their initial reaction without taking time to cool off and think rationally. This is the age of knee-jerk (hell, it's beyond that, IMO).
Indeedy. Back in the day it was a huge effort to get things rolling, there was all the pitchforks to sharpen, getting people together, organising chanting which everyone could understand. Now its flick a button to open twitter or facebook and mash that keyboard. A whole army of irate people ready to be told what they are irate about.