Starmaker is a she, I want to have sexytime with her.

There's a World Toilet Organization!?!?!!??!? That's new to me

There are bad men out there. And also bad women. Just bad people overall. But also good people. Men and women alike. We all encountered bad people in our lives. Some of them were men and some were women. Maybe you encountered more bad women, it's certainly possible.

But just as it's wrong to decry all men as bad simply because some of us are bad, it is equally wrong to decry all women as bad.

Half of the people in my life are women. Coworkers, teachers, friends, lovers. The majority of my family are women. Some of my favorite authors and musicians are women. I can't imagine my life without all of them. I love them, value them, respect them. I sympathize with their problems, just as they sympathize with mine.

Being a man, enjoying it, loving yourself, valuing yourself is not something that has to happen at the expense of women. It's not a zero sum game, it's not us vs. them. We are all people and we should all be treated the same.

Sometimes we are told that we are bad. Some of us are. Sometimes they are told they are bad. Some of them are. But most of us aren'd bad. It'd probably be a good thing to remember.

You've been watching Dr Phil reruns.

I just don't think there is a reason to take sides if there is no war.

I also love myself very much and even though I recognize that some men are scum I don't feel even slightly guilty for having been born a man. And I certainly don't need to think that women are worse than men to continue loving myself. In fact I'm perfectly capable of judging a person for their actions without having to examine their crotch.

It's fine to have a men's day, it's fine to have a women's day, it's fine to try and ensure that everyone's rights are upheld. And it's also perfectly fine to decide for yourself that someone is a worthless and contemptible subhuman — the only caveat being that this decision has to be based on what they actually did and nothing else.

I find this comment interesting on a number of levels:

1. Firstly I’d like to thank the super masculine Bill Gates for MS DOS, etc. Secondly I’d like to thank the super masculine Alan Turing for breaking the enigma code and thirdly I’d like to thank the very masculine Melitta Bentz for my coffee this morning.

2. What problems do you think masculinity causes?

3. Do you understand the distinction that is often drawn between masculinity that may be toxic and masculinity that is not toxic?

You know... it's a lot easier to argue with a guy who rants nonsensically than with someone who is arguing a reasonable point that is not necessarily ideologically the same as yours.

I'm not sure whether you're suggesting Hedwards is ranting nonsensically or not... :)

But in any case, I find the ranters impossible to have a discussion with. I've found Hedwards in the past to be relatively reasonable, although that was many years ago and things might have changed since then (eg, masculinity is the main reason why we have all the things we have today).

I see what you did there... sneaky!

Only feminists manages to completely derail a thread like this. It's not even theirs day so something must be serious wrong when they're not being heard elsewhere....

If you speak with older, former feminists, they'd tell you that they don't want anything to do with today's feministic movement. They view it as a spreading social sickness.

Another thing: You feminists (not you Alaric :-p) actually proved my point. You come in uninvited and wreck havoc. You don't see that in a Womans thread, do you?

Can confirm.

Now, couldn't this day or at least this thread have been about men being allowed to feel good about themselves for once?

Discerning how some men / women are good / bad is pointless if the law promote bad actions.

If the law allow men to behave badly, like falsely accuse the women for raping them with no consequence, making it default that women are guilty until proven innocent. More and more men will behave badly.

If the law allow men to falsely accuse women for domestic violence, and if the women have no prove she is screwed. If the men are shown to be lying the go scoot free or get a slap on the wrist. Of course more and more men will abuse that.

If the law allow men financial incentive even though they make false accusation against women. Even if the accusation is false they can still get money from the EU. Of course men will use that to earn more money.

http://kukuruyo.com/2016/02/17/spain-gender-laws-a-country-against-men/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjgBfklmYj8

The percentage of good / bad men / women is no longer an issue. It becomes how to survive against false accusation. You no longer have the luxury of assuming the women will not screw you over. What matters is all women can.

Nope, sorry pal. Because they don't understand that we actually RESPECTS their alone time, their private "safe space", and they can't handle that men should have it. Equality my natural black hole!

Everyone, take a good look at those modern feminists all over the world, and then feel sorry for them, even though they act like children. ;-)

And Klumpen, I actually feel for you...

Thanks for making me laugh.

There shouldn't be any fake holidays (or anything else) based on liberal identity politics, which are always highly sexist & racist. Happy days will be when all such fake holidays - and liberal identity politics on the whole - are universally abolished.

Thanks! This made me laugh. :-)
That's OK too. You can be whatever you want. Just as long as you don't try to force anyone else to be what you want too. I wouldn't want to be Kleetus! ;-)