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Roze: I'm part of LGBT
Which part? No, seriously. You used LGBTQ term earlier (which is incorrect btw, correct is LGBTQ+) and now shorened it to LGBT, which implies you claim to belong this particular category. But as far as I know there are already tensions and arguments in LGBT community. Like transgender women (who are men biologically) call out lesbians for not considering them women. So telll me, are you T, to speak for this issue as if it is your own?
Post edited November 10, 2018 by LootHunter
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Roze: I'm part of LGBT
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LootHunter: Which part? No, seriously. You used LGBTQ term earlier (which is incorrect btw, correct is LGBTQ+) and now shorened it to LGBT, which implies you claim to belong this particular category. But as far as I know there are already tensions and arguments in LGBT community. Like transgender women (who are men biologically) call out lesbians for not considering them women. So telll me, are you T, to speak for this issue as if it is your own?
I wouldn't correct that. Plenty of abbreviations, the most inclusive I've seen is LGBTTQQIAAP++ but each is valid.

Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender/Transsexual/Queer/Questioning/Intersexual/Asexual/Allied/Pansexual/et alia

Point being I'm fine with people being themselves. Whatever floats one's boat. We are already nerds/geeks for playing video games as adults. I'm not so fine with people of any type forcing their partisan values upon others whether it be religious, political, identity or anything else. Don't force your values on someone else.

In these instances, GoG explained their intent and apologized for both tweets, two out of very many. They acted promptly and professionally. I accept their statements at face value. They did the right thing and I firmly believe no ill-tent was intended. The problem is for some people that isn't enough for them, and they need to punish and then enforce their ideals upon them. I think that is bs.
Getting out of hand people.
I don't know the details of what's going on here exactly, but if for whatever reason members here would like to post about this or other topics somewhere else, you're welcome to come join the RPG-Forums. It's fairly new with a small number of members, but there are several GOG members there. There's a board for CD Projekt and there's a politics board as well, where you can speak about whatever politics you want, left-wing or right-wing. Just keep it relatively civil is all. :-)

http://rpg-forums.boards.net/
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abstract_dream: I don't know the details of what's going on here exactly, but if for whatever reason members here would like to post about this or other topics somewhere else, you're welcome to come join the RPG-Forums. It's fairly new with a small number of members, but there are several GOG members there. There's a board for CD Projekt and there's a politics board as well, where you can speak about whatever politics you want, left-wing or right-wing. Just keep it relatively civil is all. :-)

http://rpg-forums.boards.net/
Intriguing! ;p
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RWarehall: Both these Tweets, GoG apologized almost immediately when they were misinterpreted. Deleted the tweets; explained what they meant by it; and offered their apologies to those who may have felt offended.
(1) Textbook cases of corporate non-apologies don't count as "apologies". Never have, never will. "While no apology was issued, GOG.com took the opportunity to recommit itself to refocusing its messaging solely about the games it sells.". That was it. We call that "adding insult to injury", not "apologizing".

(2) One tweet mocked transgender people with a reactionary meme. The tweet was in no way "misinterpreted". You want civil discourse? That was the opposite.

(3) One tweet mocked transgender people by purposefully hijacking a hashtag transgender people use to fight for their right to exist. The social media manager wasn't that incompetent that he didn't know exactly what the hashtag meant. The tweet was in no way "misinterpreted". You want civil discourse? That was the opposite.

(4) One tweet alluded to a deeply misogynist hate movement. The tweet featured an all out anti-games press picture from a game DLC that literally has a neo-nazi voice actor chosen for his prominence in beforementioned hate movement. The tweet was in no way "misinterpreted". You want civil discourse? That was the opposite.

(5) The explanation GOG gave for the last fuckup of the former social media manager wasn't just a non-apology, it was also obviously a lie or rather several lies at once. "The tweet was neither intended as a malicious attack, nor as a comment to the ongoing social debate." is what they said. But communicating in reactionary memes and going wink wink at the most vile combatants in a hate movement is factually a malicious attack, it is factually a comment on the ongoing debate, and it is obviously intended as both.
Post edited November 10, 2018 by Vainamoinen
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RWarehall: I wouldn't correct that. Plenty of abbreviations, the most inclusive I've seen is LGBTTQQIAAP++ but each is valid.

Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender/Transsexual/Queer/Questioning/Intersexual/Asexual/Allied/Pansexual/et alia
Is it joke? This acronym is enormous.

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RWarehall: I'm not so fine with people of any type forcing their partisan values upon others whether it be religious, political, identity or anything else. Don't force your values on someone else.
But what was wrong with his tweet? His statement about computer classics was absolutely right. Did the GOG team really made concession to "offended" people and fired him?
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Vainamoinen: (3) One tweet mocked transgender people by purposefully hijacking a hashtag transgender people use to fight for their right to exist. The tweet was in no way "misinterpreted". You want civil discourse? That was the opposite.
Right to exist? What would happen if people would not regard is flashmob seriously?
Post edited November 10, 2018 by roaring_salmon
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RWarehall: I wouldn't correct that. Plenty of abbreviations, the most inclusive I've seen is LGBTTQQIAAP++ but each is valid.

Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender/Transsexual/Queer/Questioning/Intersexual/Asexual/Allied/Pansexual/et alia
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roaring_salmon: This acronym is enormous.
Well, duh! The more you proclaim to protect certain groups of people (based on their sex, race, etc) in the name of equality and inclusivness the more other groups that you haven't declared your protection for will be disgruntled by their exclusion and demand their own inclusion and having equal attention. And since sexuality/gender identity is based solely on what is in people's mind, the imagination becomse the limit.

That's actually why even some lefties start to understand that the whole gender system is a problem, since it tries to put a huge variety of people's views on sex into strict categories.

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Vainamoinen: (3) One tweet mocked transgender people by purposefully hijacking a hashtag transgender people use to fight for their right to exist. The tweet was in no way "misinterpreted". You want civil discourse? That was the opposite.
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roaring_salmon: Right to exist? What would happen if people would not regard is flashmob seriously?
Don't listen to this guy. He is a bigot, who don't care for facts or reason or even logic in his statements.
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Vainamoinen: (4) One tweet alluded to a deeply misogynist hate movement. The tweet featured an all out anti-games press picture from a game DLC that literally has a neo-nazi voice actor chosen for his prominence in beforementioned hate movement. The tweet was in no way "misinterpreted". You want civil discourse? That was the opposite.
No point discussing the rest of his bs, I've already addressed it, but I will point out how batshit crazy he is when he is calling a gay man of Jewish heritage a "neo-Nazi" and talk about his involvement in a "hate movement". Remember when I said that these people were going to complain no matter what about that game DLC joining the catalog? Proof positive. It's was not really the tweet they are complaining about, but the game and studio itself.

These people aren't even trying to be factual or honest. It's all hyperbole. Every stretched one-sided interpretation is the absolute truth to them and even those who mildly disagree with even one thing they think is the "enemy" and must be banned or fired.
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RWarehall: I wouldn't correct that. Plenty of abbreviations, the most inclusive I've seen is LGBTTQQIAAP++ but each is valid.

Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender/Transsexual/Queer/Questioning/Intersexual/Asexual/Allied/Pansexual/et alia
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roaring_salmon: Is it joke? This acronym is enormous.
Not a joke. I don't see a problems with it. Some people are doing their best to include all categories. Imagine listing all the races in the world and trying to determine what constitutes a "race". Not everyone will have the same list. Do you separate out specific Native American tribes? Are all Asians boiled into one? etc.

That's why its silly to say any one acronym is correct. They all work. QUILTBAG is pretty popular since you don't need to spell it out.
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LootHunter: Which part? No, seriously. You used LGBTQ term earlier (which is incorrect btw, correct is LGBTQ+) and now shorened it to LGBT, which implies you claim to belong this particular category. But as far as I know there are already tensions and arguments in LGBT community. Like transgender women (who are men biologically) call out lesbians for not considering them women. So telll me, are you T, to speak for this issue as if it is your own?
Loot, I'm amazed. Most people who aren't part of the demographic tend to not usually know much about inner LGBTQ politics, as people naturally don't busy themselves with things that don't particularly involve or interest them. And that makes you a little more perceptive, just saying.
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LootHunter: Which part? No, seriously. You used LGBTQ term earlier (which is incorrect btw, correct is LGBTQ+) and now shorened it to LGBT, which implies you claim to belong this particular category. But as far as I know there are already tensions and arguments in LGBT community. Like transgender women (who are men biologically) call out lesbians for not considering them women. So telll me, are you T, to speak for this issue as if it is your own?
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Nicole28: Loot, I'm amazed. Most people who aren't part of the demographic tend to not usually know much about inner LGBTQ politics, as people naturally don't busy themselves with things that don't particularly involve or interest them. And that makes you a little more perceptive, just saying.
That's because individual identity is trumped by the collective. That's part of the strategy behind identity politics. Why do you think the sex-outraged left has grabbed the rainbow flag as their totem? Lots of colors, intended to proclaim unity between many different groups. When in fact, if you took a couple of openly gay or trans people to say a black southern baptist church you'd see very quickly what weak ground their castle was built on.

And ultimately all this pronoun letter-jacketing group politics is just more divide and conquer. Who gives a shit about illegal wars, fiat currency and inflation, or warrant-less surveillance of the citizenry by the government when we need to worry about those important things like what bathroom some crossdresser is going to use at the local Apple-Bees restaurant.
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abstract_dream: I don't know the details of what's going on here exactly, but if for whatever reason members here would like to post about this or other topics somewhere else, you're welcome to come join the RPG-Forums. It's fairly new with a small number of members, but there are several GOG members there. There's a board for CD Projekt and there's a politics board as well, where you can speak about whatever politics you want, left-wing or right-wing. Just keep it relatively civil is all. :-)

http://rpg-forums.boards.net/
Thanks :D
(On the other hand, maybe Linko was the one who came up with the frontpage redesign idea...)
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Telika: (On the other hand, maybe Linko was the one who came up with the frontpage redesign idea...)
POST OF THE YEAR! XD