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Hunter65536: Forgot to address this part in my previous post, would you say that your reasoning is strong or more like intuition/hunch? Like, is it supported by past games like you quoted in other instances in this game?
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Vitek: Strong reasoning based on intuition. :-)

Town Joe I feel is looking for who is scum and when he is mafia he is looking for weak reasoning to jump on any existing wagon and I feel like it is exactly what he is doing here.

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Noted

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JoeSapphire: prrrobs not he's in my POTU, and he's got one vote so
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blotunga: Wtf is POTU?
Pool Of The Uneliminated as in his suspect list I think

Will be back after reread to put my vote
We played board games with our guests until 6 in the morning! We played Terraforming Mars for the first time and it was glorious - the game is awesome!

I'm catching up now.
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GymHenson: It's a meme, and likely means what I said is a good idea sometimes but not all the time.
Correct, although I'd would have had it with a smaller percentage but that's how the meme goes. What I was trying to point out was how often people are spared when marked for lynching by the majority of players just because they say "Yeah, I'm Town. Don't lynch me."

You wanted a claim and you got a claim. Everyone in their right mind would say they are Town so you saying that Trent could have stopped there doesn't make a lot of sense. I know of couple of cases where people managed to survive in this way but I'd say that's more of an exception to the rule rather than the other way around. I personally would have kept voting him if he kept quiet.


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flubbucket: You sound like a Neutral if your power isn't exclusively designed to help town.
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say there are a few Town roles that can swing either way. Even a plain old Cop can practically help scum win the game if there is a Godfather on the other side. Also, on second lookup the roles list explicitly states the role as Town-related. I don't like this statement.


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ZFR: Almost any PR is Neutral by this definition. Roleblocker. Vigilante...
Right.


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GymHenson: And this post could be either scum!trent trying to throw shade on town!flub, scum!trent trying to distance from scum!flub, or town!trent looking for scum.
Do you mean ZFR?


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Vitek: Yeah, I don't want to do that because so far I was shown no convincing reason to.
D1.


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Vitek: (Cue your meme)
I was making a joke but OK.


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Vitek: Unless mafia were given fake claim, it's more likely town claim because from decription in sign-up thread I see it described as town one.
That's actually a good point. Do you think it's a fake claim?


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flubbucket: Please see above comment.

My thoughts regarding trentonlf's role claim have little to do with my reasons for Voting him. I did Vote him before he claimed. I did comment on the actual role claim simply as opinion.

I am also not looking for any reason to switch my Vote. It's Day One so I'm looking for a player who is acting scummy...and I will continue to do so. my name is vaughlte catte is merely a lurker who has caught my attention with a couple of comments.
I assume I'll be referred to this portion as well. So Trent was and still is scummy to you, you're satisfied with your vote and his claim has nothing to do with that?


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blotunga: As for why I think he's not lying, the claim fits, and I haven't seen any counterclaims.
I'm not sure I follow this. Fits how? Don't answer if it makes sense in the context of your own personal knowledge but if you can answer without exposing more secret information, please explain.

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blotunga: So why are you hinting at a PR? What's the purpose for this?
Yeah...

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blotunga: PS: thanks for the best wishes, wife is better now, seems like it was just some sort of food related nausea.
Awesome!


All caught up.

I believe everyone is accounted for (not sure about Korotan and Catter but I slept only for 3 hours so I'm not at my best right now). It seems there won't be a counter-claim or at least it's unlikely. Vitek makes a good poinit about the mod provided fake claim. I haven't seen that before so I'm not sure how likely it is but someone told me recently that it exists so I suppose it's possible. Trent's reaction looked genuine but he's a fucking liar when he needs to be and a good one so I don't know. Flub's stance on the matter looks weird to me.

I just remembered that Pooka hasn't show up yet or I missed it and he was my other top suspect from before so I'm curious what he thinks about this whole ordeal.


I'm going out to run errands but should be back at least one more time before deadline (I'm most probably won't be around for the actual deadline so I'll vote when I come back in a couple of hours).
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dedoporno: .......................

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flubbucket: You sound like a Neutral if your power isn't exclusively designed to help town.
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dedoporno: I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say there are a few Town roles that can swing either way. Even a plain old Cop can practically help scum win the game if there is a Godfather on the other side. Also, on second lookup the roles list explicitly states the role as Town-related. I don't like this statement.

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Well trentonlf stated himself in post #516 the possibility of "accidentally helping scum" existed.

So how do you feel about trentonlf's statement??


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dedoporno: ...............

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flubbucket: Please see above comment.

My thoughts regarding trentonlf's role claim have little to do with my reasons for Voting him. I did Vote him before he claimed. I did comment on the actual role claim simply as opinion.

I am also not looking for any reason to switch my Vote. It's Day One so I'm looking for a player who is acting scummy...and I will continue to do so. my name is vaughlte catte is merely a lurker who has caught my attention with a couple of comments.
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dedoporno: I assume I'll be referred to this portion as well. So Trent was and still is scummy to you, you're satisfied with your vote and his claim has nothing to do with that?

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Your taking my statement out of context.

This comment is specific to bucktoothgamer stating "it just looks like a quick attempt to find someone to wwitch you vote to".

I voted trentonlf for reasons I have clearly stated and at the time it was a viable wagon.
Between 7 and 11 hours to deadline. Depending on my availability tonight
I mean hory freck I missed a lot. I saw that trent claimed and was brought to L-3. And no, I don't dispute that claim. In fact, it's a feat to get trent to frustratingly claim on D1. Not a good feat, but a feat nonetheless.

Though I'm not sure of the state of affairs surrounding flub or why he's that unpopular.
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dedoporno: Vitek makes a good poinit about the mod provided fake claim. I haven't seen that before so I'm not sure how likely it is but someone told me recently that it exists so I suppose it's possible.
It was mentioned by yogs some time ago, then I believe it came up during trent's role madness and my last game when the whole Slytherin claim came up.

I just had a thought: fake claims would be a possible reason why GH wants to claim so badly. He said earlier that he considers claiming himself just for the lulz, and now did a complete unasked for claim that said he's got a role that can potentially help or harm Town. For me this was an indication of Town-GH who's got a good role and wants to claim, so I pretty was going to leave him alone.

But... If the scum team were given fake-claims, I can totally see scum-GH wanting to make use of his.
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Vitek: I've got to say it sucks if both my main suspects are fully or mostly absent.
So i'm not in at least your top 2?

*sadface emoji*

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(Bump plz, if someone could)
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blotunga: I think we have discussed several times that no-lynch on d1 is worse than a mislynch.
Yeah yeah yeah....town can analyze the wagons....yadda yadda yadda yadda. ;)

Silly speak aside: before I believed that a bit more, but after last game(where we had wagons to analyze and few actually analzyzed them, and those that did so did so sparingly) I find I am gravitating a bit more towards my stance of "nolynch is better than a rushed possible mislynch, on certain 'days' ".

(If people want to make me feel that a wagon is better to have to be able to analyze it then may-be town vets should...um....do some more substantial wagon analysis one of these games)

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blotunga: So why are you hinting at a PR? What's the purpose for this? Do you want us to leave you alone because of it? While I don't have much experience, hinting at PRs I think is usually found scummy. Especially when there is no need for such.
I have my reasons. Not gonna reveal any more of em atm as don't wanna possibly spoil what I am trying to do by saying it aloud.

(I did say earlier, though, that my role might benefit town and scum.....and I was wondering if I am more help or harm to town alive. That is the one I revealed so far)

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blotunga: PS: thanks for the best wishes, wife is better now, seems like it was just some sort of food related nausea.
This is good to hear. :)
(being sick is never fun, and is especially stressing in current year)

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(Maybe Bump needed plox)
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dedoporno: You wanted a claim and you got a claim. Everyone in their right mind would say they are Town so you saying that Trent could have stopped there doesn't make a lot of sense. I know of couple of cases where people managed to survive in this way but I'd say that's more of an exception to the rule rather than the other way around. I personally would have kept voting him if he kept quiet.
I already discussed this with Trent....I either mistakenly conflated his dislike of role claims with him being against claiming in general, or mixed him up with someone who does dislike claims.

Either way, I am now leaning Trent more town than scum.

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GymHenson: And this post could be either scum!trent trying to throw shade on town!flub, scum!trent trying to distance from scum!flub, or town!trent looking for scum.
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dedoporno: Do you mean ZFR?
Yes.

EBWOP: That should say ZFR, everyone

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blotunga: So why are you hinting at a PR? What's the purpose for this?
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dedoporno: Yeah...
I know rite? It's like people forget how I play every single new game. o.0

(Also I have good reasons for doing what I did, but not gonna say em and give scum more info.....will reveal later on if need be, though)

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dedoporno: I'm going out to run errands but should be back at least one more time before deadline (I'm most probably won't be around for the actual deadline so I'll vote when I come back in a couple of hours).
Remember to vote soonish....we have very few hours left(Around 6-10 or so, depending on Lift...as per Post 560).

Well unless you think it best we go with nolynch, that is?
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ZFR: I just had a thought: fake claims would be a possible reason why GH wants to claim so badly. He said earlier that he considers claiming himself just for the lulz, and now did a complete unasked for claim that said he's got a role that can potentially help or harm Town. For me this was an indication of Town-GH who's got a good role and wants to claim, so I pretty was going to leave him alone.

But... If the scum team were given fake-claims, I can totally see scum-GH wanting to make use of his.
That was one of the reasons I wanted to claim, which I was hinting at with my contemplations much earlier & which I outright said more recently: my role can possibly help/harm town or scum.

Of course, that's just my word...believe what you will.
(if I make it til D2 I might be able to confirm my role a bit, though)
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ZFR: I just had a thought: fake claims would be a possible reason why GH wants to claim so badly. He said earlier that he considers claiming himself just for the lulz, and now did a complete unasked for claim that said he's got a role that can potentially help or harm Town. For me this was an indication of Town-GH who's got a good role and wants to claim, so I pretty was going to leave him alone.

But... If the scum team were given fake-claims, I can totally see scum-GH wanting to make use of his.
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GymHenson: That was one of the reasons I wanted to claim, which I was hinting at with my contemplations much earlier & which I outright said more recently: my role can possibly help/harm town or scum.

Of course, that's just my word...believe what you will.
(if I make it til D2 I might be able to confirm my role a bit, though)
Do you want to make the NK and hope trent will double that?
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blotunga: Do you want to make the NK and hope trent will double that?
1. Are you suggesting Trent (especially after I more or less helped push him to claim) would be so stupid as to use his power on me on N1?

2. There is nothing else to say with regards to your post here......I just like making lists.

List making aside, do you honestly think anyone would ever use such a power on me, what with how I am often suspected in these games?

Sidenote: I actually DON'T want Trent to even bother using his power on me, at least not until I can prove myself.....which should hopefully be doable as early as start of D2(once I come online from IRL and/or rest, that is).
Actually if you were a power thief, you'd want people using their power on you
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blotunga: Actually if you were a power thief, you'd want people using their power on you
Curious town!Blotunga trying to find scum, or scum!blotunga trying to prod me to see what role I might have(so scum knows how to handle me on n1)?

This is what I now ask myself.

As I said, I will not explain much further on my role or what I am trying to do here.....I will reveal more if/when I feel it is merited, though.