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my name is vaughlte catte: Trent's claim seems premature and if he was really concerned about staying in the game and getting to use his power he shouldn't have volunteered it so easily. If he's scum, it'd be a pretty bold false claim at this point.
Do you mean it'd be bold because of the roles listed in the signup?

You make a good point....would a possible scum!Trent try a gambit of claiming one of the roles from said signup thread, and bank on it not being in the game(and thus a safe false claim for him)?

I don't think he likely would...but then anything is possible and it could be a bold move by Trent indeed....still, it gives me more to think about.
Damn! Now I'm conflicted. I don't like the idea of ending day 1 without a lynch, but im not enough of a gambler to call trent out on bluffing.

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trentonlf: I am Mr. Handy and my name if Fisto. I can give someone 2 night actions instead of 1 by assisting them. I googled Fisto as I have no clue about Fallout characters and Lift you are funny.

You all suck for making me reveal my role as it's a cool one that I was looking forward to using. Seems I'm dead either way as I don't see scum letting me live.
Unless you left out some fine print for your night action, couldn't you be used as a pawn for the scum? What's stopping you from accidentally assisting them and giving them a second night-kill?
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GymHenson: Do you mean it'd be bold because of the roles listed in the signup?

You make a good point....would a possible scum!Trent try a gambit of claiming one of the roles from said signup thread, and bank on it not being in the game(and thus a safe false claim for him)?

I don't think he likely would...but then anything is possible and it could be a bold move by Trent indeed....still, it gives me more to think about.
It would certainly be high risk/reward. There's the risk of being counterclaimed, but if he was lucky and picked a role that turned out not to have been included then there'd be a tendency for people to believe him. Of course it's also a role that should be verifiable down the road as people should be able to confirm getting a second action.
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bucktoothgamer: Damn! Now I'm conflicted. I don't like the idea of ending day 1 without a lynch, but im not enough of a gambler to call trent out on bluffing.
As pointed out by someone else, Trent would have to be bold to pick from the roles in the signup and bank on no one else having that role....so he's more likely town than scum.
(Though of course i'm not ruling him out 100%)

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bucktoothgamer: Unless you left out some fine print for your night action, couldn't you be used as a pawn for the scum? What's stopping you from accidentally assisting them and giving them a second night-kill?
I pointed this out in post 484.....I and him seem to have roles that help town and scum...dunno about others, though.

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(Again to all: This is not asking for anyone's role info....just curiosity and musing. Also no one dump any role info....i'm not asking, and no one should do so obviously)
Sorry, I did want to throw this out there for now:

UNVOTE trentonlf

However, it does make me somewhat uneasy that blotunga(my other top scum right now) voted GH in response to trent being voted for. ZFR also makes a point that blotunga seems real sure of trent being a scum target when again, i feel that trents role claim would be a reason for scum to keep him around for a while unless they are sure that he has the drop on them.
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bucktoothgamer: Damn! Now I'm conflicted. I don't like the idea of ending day 1 without a lynch, but im not enough of a gambler to call trent out on bluffing.

Unless you left out some fine print for your night action, couldn't you be used as a pawn for the scum? What's stopping you from accidentally assisting them and giving them a second night-kill?
It's very possible I could accidentally help scum, I would have to hope I chose correctly as to who is Town.
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trentonlf: It's very possible I could accidentally help scum, I would have to hope I chose correctly as to who is Town.
Welcome to my world......it's at times like this I wish I didn't have one.

That said, I will be hoping you choose correctly and wishing you well i that regard, fwiw.

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@Bucktooth-Post 515: Noted, and I will be keeping an eye on such in the future(well as long as I remember to, what with the brain rot called my memory and all).
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trentonlf: ...
Good luck Town

P.S. YOU ALL SUCK
This (and his subsequent posts) seems like stronger reaction than warranted but others can correct me in case my baseline is wrong.

I dunno how far the deadline is and if it finishes before my day starts tomorrow but here's what I think. I will wait for any of them below to dispute trent
Engerek01
Pookina
flubbucket
Korotan

I'll try to hang around a bit longer (1 hour or so tops because I am still kinda sleep deprived from work last week) than originally planned if required. I'm left with either Blotunga or ZFR from my willing to vote list for now.

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Hunter65536: Forgot to address this part in my previous post, would you say that your reasoning is strong or more like intuition/hunch? Like, is it supported by past games like you quoted in other instances in this game?
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Vitek: ...
@Vitek I think you missed this question from me, you replied to my other post but not this one which came little after that

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blotunga: because he probably will be NKed.
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ZFR: ...
In a semi-open role madness where scum can fire blindly and still hit a role, trent's role doesn't strike me particularly as a priority to scum. Given the roles Lift posted, I can see ones they'd find much more important to go after.
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Yeah I agree with your assessment of this situation, those concerns stated there seem not as pressing.
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Hunter65536: I'll try to hang around a bit longer (1 hour or so tops because I am still kinda sleep deprived from work last week) than originally planned if required. I'm left with either Blotunga or ZFR from my willing to vote list for now.
Deadline is Sunday(need to ask OP for specific time, though)....so you might want to get some rest in the meantime.

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@OP: When would deadline be from now, if I may ask? How many hours, give or take?
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Hunter65536: I'll try to hang around a bit longer (1 hour or so tops because I am still kinda sleep deprived from work last week) than originally planned if required. I'm left with either Blotunga or ZFR from my willing to vote list for now.
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GymHenson: Deadline is Sunday(need to ask OP for specific time, though)....so you might want to get some rest in the meantime.

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@OP: When would deadline be from now, if I may ask? How many hours, give or take?
Good to know, thanks! :)
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Hunter65536: Good to know, thanks! :)
I also went ahead and PMd OP so he knows I asked him about deadline....hopefully he'll fill us in soonish(when he sees the PM).
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GymHenson: In the meantime, what should we do, do you think? Build another wagon? Something else?
I hope as much people as possible drop by and see the claim (ideally everyone) and react to it. As someone else mentioned that claim seems like quite a gamble - it's one of the special roles so Trent doesn't have any wiggle room if someone counter-claims him. Building another wagon before this one is processed. We have one potential role already exposed.


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GymHenson: You could've also just said you're town and refused to answer more.....
That's sounds like a really good idea.


My guests should be here any minute so I won't be around at least for a few hours.
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dedoporno: I hope as much people as possible drop by and see the claim (ideally everyone) and react to it. As someone else mentioned that claim seems like quite a gamble - it's one of the special roles so Trent doesn't have any wiggle room if someone counter-claims him. Building another wagon before this one is processed. We have one potential role already exposed.
Good idea....the waiting for reactions thing, I mean.

(I mean it risks a nolynch or mislynch, but I don't want to potentially out another PR)

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dedoporno: That's sounds like a really good idea.

My guests should be here any minute so I won't be around at least for a few hours.
Nice....hope you have fun.
Thanks for the bump.

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dedoporno: Building another wagon before this one is processed. We have one potential role already exposed.
I somehow deleted part of the first sentence. It should read "Building another wagon before this one is processed somehow isn't great."

Doorbell. Bye for now!
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my name is vaughlte catte: I dunno how to feel about this. Trent's claim seems premature and if he was really concerned about staying in the game and getting to use his power he shouldn't have volunteered it so easily. If he's scum, it'd be a pretty bold false claim at this point.
Remind me about what I got told as an advise.
"Do not say what are on D1. It will likely not believed, get you suspicious and even if you are innocent you will only draw yourself a target on yourself!"
Mayby it is a move to get people like me to pity him? Honestly this back and forth is very confusing for me.