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yogsloth: I'm out of town for a week starting tomorrow. I'll still have access to a computer, just shit time online as I have been

We'll roll the dice and pray my thin "too helpful" scum lean on Carradice is correct

Vote Carradice

If he flips scum, good job to those paying tons of attention and putting in the work

If he flips town cop, lolofolopowitz on us
This is the "come follow me off the edge of this cliff" energy that I've been talking about from yogsloth. Actually no, the sentiment is there, but the energy is lacking.


Can someone unvote? There's 24 hours still and I'd like to revisit my Process of Elimination list, and encourage others to do something similar
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JoeSapphire: Can someone unvote? There's 24 hours still and I'd like to revisit my Process of Elimination list, and encourage others to do something similar
Unvote Carradice

Just to give Joe some time before hammer.
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JoeSapphire: This is the "come follow me off the edge of this cliff" energy that I've been talking about from yogsloth.
It is?
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JoeSapphire: This list because I eliminated

zfr - his tone at the beginning of toDay. I think I had something more concrete to trust him on but maybe I didn't. I don't think scumzfr tunnels so hard on carradice
carradice - because I didn't have much reason to scumread him when he was getting lynched, and it made sense to me to look elsewhere while we had his uncontested cop claim
flockeschnee - based on her general conduct throughout the game
supplementscene - based on his start to toDay - I believed his smugness about town-reading SirP and gogtrial, and thought he was being fairly clear and logical at the begninning. Irrelevant now but I just wanted to be smug about my own read.

trent and dedo because I did a miniature process of elimination
- vitek I think makes a good amount of jokes and gentle humour while also providing some neat little bits of insight. It just occured to me that the fact I'm not suspicious of him should maybe make me suspicious but whatever. Shut up counter-brain no-one likes you.
- microfish, fairly typical microfish. I started by misunderstanding him and giving him scumlean, so he swings back in my perception as more of a town-lean. That's maybe illogical of me, but micro has a similar relaxed and jovial attitude as vitek, and I find it hard to associate it with scum. If they're on a team together that would be great.
- lifthrasil for the would-mean-he-was-working-to-convince-Joe-particularly thing.
- yogsloth because his tone doesn't feel particularly like scum yogsloth. I associate scum yogsloth with that hypnotic infectious enthusiastic energy. I just see vaguely-distracted participation and derps.

trent I have no reason to think is mafia or town. Maybe I saw him coming to microfish' defense which might indicate a teamship, but maybe not. But he is leftover. I can picture him choosing gogtrial to kill. And electing for a block-the-cop strategy, if that is indeed what we're seeing...
dedo I don't have a particular read on either, but he hasn't called me sexy in a while so maybe I'm just subconsciously reacting to that.
Okay. What has changed?

- zfr ZFR has been going for carradice with believable conviction. If he's scum this would be a risky move played very well. If carradice is town, zfr's probably town. If carradice is mafia zfr's certainly town.

- carradice he's getting lynched for sure. I still think he's probably town, and I'm gonna feel real stupid if he flips mafia, because there's so much about the way he did the cop claim, his lack of reads today, and this recent stubbornly-refusing-to-explain-himself that scream mafia.

- flockeschnee I still wanna say town. I like how she told trent and (dedo was it?) not to pocket her, that felt genuine. Thinking Carradice might be town but not an actual cop verges on the rare and coveted "derpclear", do you think so? If carradice is town the mafia have surely been treating him as a genuine cop - enough to block him.
If he's mafia... then the derp doesn't ferp: We must aquerp.

- yogsloth I'm not sure about the way he's approached today it seems fairly suspect, but the way he responded to the initial question about the role name and dedo's follow up, I dunno, it seemed pretty clear to me that he knew what dedo was getting at... it all seemed genuine that. Also the "I'm old and drunk and live for the queen." It makes sense that he's just paraphrasing his role flavour.

- dedoporno the read I did made me think perhaps town, then the thing at yogsloth makes it pretty likely dedo's town.

- lifthrasil if he's mafia he did mind manipulation to force me to think he's not mafia and I refuse to accept that.

- vitek now that I read dedo, vitek's looking more likely, because I've basically eliminated everybody. But he did that thing where he told me I'd scum read him and then I didn't. He feels genuine.
- microfish microfish too. He's here because someone's got to be mafia. But he's generally fairly microfishy.
-trent other than maybe kind of distant feel I'm getting from him this game, I don't have much reason to scum read him except that it' hard to see it being anyone else.

This makes me feel a little better about the inevitable carradice lynch. Though I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up because if carradice turns up town it's looking pretty grim.

Does anyone else feel like doing some general reads? Trying to establish a town core? Might be good to use this time to consider other scenarios.


I also forgot to say good news on the results trent, hope you feel better soon
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JoeSapphire: This is the "come follow me off the edge of this cliff" energy that I've been talking about from yogsloth.
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dedoporno: It is?
You've sent me that image before. Is the spark gone so soon?


(are you genuinely calling doubt on me there?)
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trentonlf: Finally got my test results back, negative for COVID :-D. It sure exactly what I had, but thankfully much better now.
Doctor is dead and you still got protected. Good to hear that.
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JoeSapphire: Okay.
Finished? I want to revote.
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JoeSapphire: - flockeschnee I still wanna say town. I like how she told trent and (dedo was it?) not to pocket her, that felt genuine.
Wasn't me. Until recently I couldn't really didn't see what others found so Town in that player but to be honest that same post you're referring to did leave a good impression on me, too.

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JoeSapphire: Also the "I'm old and drunk and live for the queen." It makes sense that he's just paraphrasing his role flavour.
Doesn't make sense to me.

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JoeSapphire: -trent other than maybe kind of distant feel I'm getting from him this game, I don't have much reason to scum read him except that it' hard to see it being anyone else.
Trent keeps feeling like scum!Trent to me. It's not a strong well-formed feeling but a creeping one that keeps me on edge. On the other side it's not unlikely that Carradice flips scum after all and if that happens I can't explain the mental gymnastics I need to perform in order to keep myself believing Trent can be scum.

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JoeSapphire: You've sent me that image before.
It's a really good reaction image. I could send you another one but it has to be done privately and the rules kind of forbid that :*

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JoeSapphire: (are you genuinely calling doubt on me there?)
No, not on you. I've no quarrel with you any longer. Only love and wet dreams. But they are very wet!
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JoeSapphire: Okay.
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ZFR: Finished? I want to revote.
I guess.


What's the play tomorrow? If we're 8 players do we give power roles a chance to reveal on the offchance that someone somehow got some urgent info, then assuming that doesn't happen vote nolynch?
Vote Carradice
The guards suddenly turned onto Ahmad. Probably something to do with the namesake of fries not mattering, and all that jazz.

The Queen didn't like the revival of the lame-as-potatoes topic, but she knew something. She was fucking excited. Just one more guard...!

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MID-PAGE 21 VOTE COUNT!

Carradice (5) - trentonlf, Vitek, Lifthrasil, yogsloth, ZFR
ZFR (2) - Carradice, FlockeSchnee
yogsloth (1) - Microfish

Not voted: JoeSapphire, Microfish, Vitek, dedoporno, FlockeSchnee, Lifthrasil, trentonlf
Not voting: JoeSapphire, dedoporno

Carradice is closest to lynch, at L-1. Just one more vote to prison!
10 players. It takes 6 to lynch.
Court Phase 2 will end on Wednesday, 1st July at 7PM London Time (UTC+1). Less than 24 hours left!
Post edited June 30, 2020 by Pookina
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ZFR: Finished? I want to revote.
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JoeSapphire: I guess.

What's the play tomorrow? If we're 8 players do we give power roles a chance to reveal on the offchance that someone somehow got some urgent info, then assuming that doesn't happen vote nolynch?
If you’re asking if we get it wrong with Carradice do we no lynch tomorrow to reduce numbers for a better chance of hitting scum that’s not bad idea as either way we are still at MYLO if Carradice is Town and even reducing numbers by one can help, but there’s nothing saying scum couldn’t use that to their advantage (the no lynch) because I can think of a couple of ways to abuse that if I were scum.
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JoeSapphire: What's the play tomorrow? If we're 8 players do we give power roles a chance to reveal on the offchance that someone somehow got some urgent info, then assuming that doesn't happen vote nolynch?
That strongly depends on Carradice's flip. Are you so sure that he will flip Town, that you are already planning for that? Let's say, if we end up being at MYLO tomorrow, a mass claim might be in order instead of a no-lynch. Or before deciding whether to no-lynch. But that's something to discuss after the flip. Because if Carradice flips scum, that will open up some connections for analysis.
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Lifthrasil: Are you so sure that he will flip Town, that you are already planning for that?
I guess so? I was thinking what to do to if it's MYLO as I was working home from work, which was a fair few hours ago now, and only thought to write it in the game when ZFR seemed eager to end the day. I spose I forgot that MYLO isn't guaranteed.
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