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PookaMustard: But I did claim.

Basically I am Vanilla Town.
Just a bit of paranoia, since off-hand thought indicated that maybe you were going the route of saying you only have your voice and vote now, because you already used a 1-shot of something.

Thanks for putting it officially on the official record, for officialness.

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PookaMustard: What of you, Bookwyrm? Claiming after gogtrial?
Yes, I intend to claim after gogtrial claims.

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Bookwyrm627: I don't feel guilty either, since prod-time isn't until tomorrow. So there, nyah nyah. ;)
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ZFR: Please read the OP. Specifically rule 15.
Wyrm has broken TWO rules now, and as we all know from last time, only scum can break multiple mod rules and not get mod killed. Wyrm is scum!

...waaaaait a second...
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PookaMustard: .........<snip>.........

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flubbucket: My PM says Jack the Ripper, Vanilla Town.

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I am Buffalo Bill, town lotioner.
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PookaMustard: .........<snip>.........
Each time I claimed town
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Bookwyrm627: I'd intended some discussion on whether to proceed; I've been mulling it over and waffling some.

Looks like we're doing it, though, so I'd like Pooka to finish his claim, then you next.
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PookaMustard: But I did claim.

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PookaMustard: I only have my voice and my vote.
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PookaMustard: Basically I am Vanilla Town.

What of you, Bookwyrm? Claiming after gogtrial?
Speaking of which: If you want to use flavor for a game purpose, here it is.

The themes behind flavor in this game revolve around ZFR's mafia experiences. If you can't produce any instance where Jack the Ripper or Buffalo Bill were used in a mafia game where ZFR has been a party to it, then Flub wasn't given either name.
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PookaMustard: But I did claim.

Basically I am Vanilla Town.

What of you, Bookwyrm? Claiming after gogtrial?
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Bookwyrm627: Speaking of which: If you want to use flavor for a game purpose, here it is.

The themes behind flavor in this game revolve around ZFR's mafia experiences. If you can't produce any instance where Jack the Ripper or Buffalo Bill were used in a mafia game where ZFR has been a party to it, then Flub wasn't given either name.
Oh the hypocrisy!


Where's my fainting couch??
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Bookwyrm627: Speaking of which: If you want to use flavor for a game purpose, here it is.

The themes behind flavor in this game revolve around ZFR's mafia experiences. If you can't produce any instance where Jack the Ripper or Buffalo Bill were used in a mafia game where ZFR has been a party to it, then Flub wasn't given either name.
Yes, indeed. Which is the main problem for me: I don't have a surefire way to check for the games ZFR's been in and then check out his flavor names to help support my case on flub. I would appreciate some help with this.
I'm Vanilla Townie as well.
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Bookwyrm627: Speaking of which: If you want to use flavor for a game purpose, here it is.

The themes behind flavor in this game revolve around ZFR's mafia experiences. If you can't produce any instance where Jack the Ripper or Buffalo Bill were used in a mafia game where ZFR has been a party to it, then Flub wasn't given either name.
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flubbucket: Oh the hypocrisy!

Where's my fainting couch??
I replaced it with a brick.

The lack of body count should make it pretty obvious that I'm not a vig, so I don't mind revealing this: I had to try and kill someone somehow. I'm reduced to using unexpected statements to try to get old men hurt. Woe is me. :-(

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PookaMustard: Yes, indeed. Which is the main problem for me: I don't have a surefire way to check for the games ZFR's been in and then check out his flavor names to help support my case on flub. I would appreciate some help with this.
That...sounds like a whole lot of work for no gain.
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Bookwyrm627: That...sounds like a whole lot of work for no gain.
I figured as much.
There's the bump.

Yep, I'm VT too. Mafia team consists of a Goon and a Roleblocker.

Now, to check something real quick and then we'll get this show on the road.
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Bookwyrm627: Yep, I'm VT too. Mafia team consists of a Goon and a Roleblocker.
Sounds like it.

One serial killer
One one-shot vigilante
A doctor and a one-shot doctor
A roleblocker
The rest are VT

So of the T??DDVB or TTTDDVB possibilities that gogtrial mentioned, TTTDDVB rings true. Unless a Town PR or two claimed VT for some reason. Speaking of, if Micro is lock Town, then the remaining scum are within the VT claims...we'll have a lot of fun fishing them out.
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Bookwyrm627: .........

The themes behind flavor in this game revolve around ZFR's mafia experiences. If you can't produce any instance where Jack the Ripper or Buffalo Bill were used in a mafia game where ZFR has been a party to it, then Flub wasn't given either name.
Here's another reason why my Vote stays on you.

You are intentionally proposing my "claims" should be considered when determining my towniness.
List of Living Players:
Microfish_1 (1-shot Vig)
Bookwyrm627
gogtrial34987
PookaMustard
flubbubcket
dedoporno

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-I know I'm town.

-Note: Joe would have known there was a Town Doctor floating around. Trent wouldn't have confirmation-by-setup.

-Worthy of Note: Scum did NOT plan for a dual doctor kill. They might have killed Trent for PR suspicions, but they couldn't have planned for a town vig nailing the other doctor.

-For reasons already established, Micro is lock town.

-I'm inclined to make the working assumption that Gogtrial is town. I haven't received much in the way of troublesome pings from his posting, and he's been putting in the work. If he is scum, then I'm willing to reward the effort with a win (jerk).

-Dedo's Post 906 -> Dedo and Flub aren't scum together.
I don't see Dedo whipping out this mess on Flub if they are scum together; you don't try to pre-emptively deep-6 your buddy for town cred when you don't know the town PR's and you only need 1 mislynch to win. See my note above about lack of scum planning. This is another working assumption on my part.

-(Worthy of Note: My working assumptions have led to Town Losses again and again and again. Therefore, Gogtrial, Flub, and Dedo are all scum. Heaven help us.)

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Here are the wagons, as generated by Gogtrial and cleaned up a little by me. (Yes, I replaced my name with "TOWN" too. If you don't like that, then make your own copy. Or just put me on every lynch wagon.)

D1 Final Vote Count:
TOWN-blotunga 7 - TOWN, flub, dedoporno, TOWN, MAFIA, TOWN, TOWN
TOWN-scene 3 - gogtrial, TOWN, Pooka

D2 Final Vote Count
TOWN-GameRager 6 - Pooka, flub, dedo, TOWN, TOWN, TOWN
TOWN-JoeSapphire 1 - gogtrial

D3 Final Vote Count
TOWN-scene 5 - TOWN, Pooka, TOWN, gogtrial, flub
Not voting: dedo
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Day 1, we have Flub and Dedo on-wagon with SPF. Gogtrial and Pooka are on the competing wagon.
Day 2, we have Pooka, Flub, and Dedo all on the wagon, one after another. Gogtrial is off wagon.
Day 3, we have Pooka, Gogtrial, and Flub on the wagon. Dedo is afk.

I'm thinking Flub and Pooka are the remaining scum. Two scum on-wagon and one off-wagon on D1, then both scum on-wagon for each remaining Day after that N1.

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Little things have added up to help convince me that despite whoumever else might be scum, Pooka has to be on the team.
-I've had vague forbodings for most of the game. Nothing hard leaped out at me, especially with the distractions from other townies, but it has been there.
-Joe commented on just how forgettable Pooka's posts have been. Sure, nothing very damning, but nothing exonerating either. A lack of getting in there is a scum ping.
-Post 931 looks all kinds of bad to me. Lots of talk about news from as far back as D1, and this is the first time Pooka has demonstrated any interest in these things (source: quick searches of "Ripper" and "Buffalo" give no hits in any of his prior posts). There's a bit of wanting to discuss how two Town Doctors could wind up on the same wagon, as if there was anything at all to read from that. Above all, Pooka managed to conclude nothing from all of this; he asked for input on meaningless matters and brought up distracting questions. Looks like an attempt to appear involved, but no game solving is present and he isn't making any waves.
-Jumps straight into the VT claim. Uncharitable of me, perhaps, but I'm guessing he wanted to confirm the town roles.

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Flub versus Dedo as the remaining scum is harder. Either one could have fingered (ha) Agent for having some kind of PR, assuming SPF or Pooka didn't.

So I'm torn. We either lynch Flub/Dedo or Pooka first. Pooka is the sure lynch for scum, but I'm not sure if he'll be the one more likely to leave a few amusing good-bye messages in the scum chat, and seeing more amusing messages is important to me. And if the team is Gogtrial + Pooka, then Gogtrial can leave amusing gloating messages in the scum chat.

(Pre Post Edit: Flub and Pooka. Which one is less likely to leave us an amusing message in scum chat when we lynch their buddy? Place your votes today!)

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flubbucket: Here's another reason why my Vote stays on you.

You are intentionally proposing my "claims" should be considered when determining my towniness.
Oh good, you are the remaining scum. I was wondering whether you'd unvote when I finally started posting again.

I wasn't proposing your claims be considered for determining your towniness. I was proposing that your claims be discarded as jokes.
Working on a post. I also disagree on at least one crucial point with Bookwyrm.

Just a reminder:
Without any remaining PRs, scum can quickhammer with impunity if two townies choose badly. Do NOT put anyone at L-2 until we have consensus!
If we can't reach consensus toDay, just let the day end, mafia will remove microfish tonight, and then we have an entire other day to reach consensus. I'm sure ZFR will love us dragging the game out like that! He'll probably invent several entirely new rules for it! :D
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gogtrial34987: If we can't reach consensus toDay, just let the day end, mafia will remove microfish tonight, and then we have an entire other day to reach consensus.
Eh. I don't really see where that gets us anything except delayed. We need to lynch twice to win, and we don't have any pinch hitters. Lets talk things to death on this Day and then go ahead and roll the dice.
I'm here, catching up.