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Posted June 21, 2019
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Bookwyrm627: Why does that matter? Neither action is relevant at that point.
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ZFR: New Rule: ninja'ing mods is not allowed. Consider this a warning.
You won't see it coming!
Posted June 21, 2019
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trentonlf: My oldest daughter Grace who just finished the chemo a couple of months ago will be getting married on Sunday so I will be pretty busy until then. Going to be a great weekend :-D
That's fantastic! Congratulations, Joe! Give my regards to your daughter and wish her long and lovely family life from us!
Posted June 21, 2019
Ah, I found it.

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supplementscene: Who did you roleblock Night 1 and why?

I realise I claimed at L2 like you are now but I was vanilla and little use to Town. If your role is true you've put yourself at risk for the subsequent night phases.
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GameRager: I role blocked you of course(I found your longwinded defensive posts to multiple people on the first game "day" to be a bit suspect so I picked you), and I was going to do so again but at this point I don't know if i'll even be around to do so.
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trentonlf: If I end up being NK'd look at flub and possibly dedo for the scum team.
Why say this??

Congratulations! Have a blast!

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trentonlf: and I wish I could say I was as I would have something to do other than just read and post.
And this?? Whutwhy??

Hope the wedding goes great!


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trentonlf: I still say flub is the best choice for lynch,
Really? I know I'm voting for him but I picked him out of a list of four I got through a vague and uncertain process-of-elimination, and I chose him out of the four because I delighted in the image of flub being mafia and getting lunch for basically no reason and Joe going A-HA!!

But I'm happy to hear you've got good news and Life is Well!

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dedoporno: Anyway, to your actual question - if GR is mafia (roleblocker or not) you can't try to make sense of why he would or wouldn't do anything - he can be lying partially or fully. The whole question is WIFOM 101.
Well if he's lying there's a decent chance it will come out isn't there?

I believe we can try to make sense of why he would or wouldn't do anything. I don't think it would be useless.


hm...

GameRager claims roleblocker - a town and mafia role
GameRager claims to have blocked scene - the only claimed vanilla currently alive in the game. Is that too convenient?

urgh,



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GameRager:
Pooka's ready to add the final vote to your lunch. I'm starting to think I would vote for you too. Seeing as you're getting got anyhow, you may as well just tell us honestly now if you are mafia.


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dedoporno: Congratulations, Joe!
Thanks Dedo, though I can't claim TOO much credit ;)
(still posting at work?)
Posted June 21, 2019
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JoeSapphire: GameRager claims roleblocker - a town and mafia role
GameRager claims to have blocked scene - the only claimed vanilla currently alive in the game. Is that too convenient?
Speaking of convenience I just realized something - the Town roleblocker is the least likely role to appear. Mafia claiming it has that much lower risk of an actual Town roleblocker disputing the claim as that require at least 3 B's to be drawn from the range of 96-100.

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JoeSapphire: Thanks Dedo, though I can't claim TOO much credit ;)
I was referring to Trent who is also Joe :)


And yes, I'm done for a bit as I entering a meeting.
Posted June 21, 2019
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trentonlf: I know my activity this game has not been the best and I apologize, but it will not get any better over the next few days. My oldest daughter Grace who just finished the chemo a couple of months ago will be getting married on Sunday so I will be pretty busy until then. Going to be a great weekend :-D

As for the game, I still say GameRager is a bad lynch. I see dedo also hinted I might be a cop but that's not the case, and I wish I could say I was as I would have something to do other than just read and post. No my reason for saying GameRager is a bad lynch is because I believe him. I still say flub is the best choice for lynch, but I sadly don't think that will happen today. If I end up being NK'd look at flub and possibly dedo for the scum team.
**Congratulations and best wishes for the wedding day!**

How would keeping GameRager alive benefit town?? If he's lying then he's killing. If he's truthing, then he's going to be killed ...or NOT and used as WIFOM.

As for lynching me, I would make a better Night Kill.
Posted June 21, 2019
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dedoporno: I was referring to Trent who is also Joe :)
:000000000000!!!! NO WAY
Posted June 21, 2019
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dedoporno: Speaking of convenience I just realized something - the Town roleblocker is the least likely role to appear. Mafia claiming it has that much lower risk of an actual Town roleblocker disputing the claim as that require at least 3 B's to be drawn from the range of 96-100..
So to clarify the odds of a Town Roleblocker coming up is either 3% or 4%?
Posted June 21, 2019
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JoeSapphire: ............

Flub: I think Joe's going to see through it. I'd better stop complimenting him even though I really want to.

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GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!


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dedoporno: ...........

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JoeSapphire: Thanks Dedo, though I can't claim TOO much credit ;)
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dedoporno: I was referring to Trent who is also Joe :)

...........
lol
Posted June 21, 2019
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flubbucket: If he's truthing, then he's going to be killed ...or NOT and used as WIFOM.
He's also blocking?
If you choose to kill GameRager you're not killing whoever you would be killing if GameRager got lunched.
If you choose to leave GameRager alive for the wine, he's got another chance to block you in the future.


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supplementscene: So to clarify the odds of a Town Roleblocker coming up is either 3% or 4%?
5%
one-in-twenty
Posted June 21, 2019
Thank you everyone for the well wishes!

Yes Joe, my real name is Joe ;-)


Here’s my last food for thought and why I believe GameRager is a bad lynch. As I said I believe he’s town and it will be a mislynch. So if there are two scum left they need three mislynhces and three successful NK’s, lynching GameRager is the first step to making that happen. After GameRager my guess is Scene will be the next to be pushed for a mislynch as he has enough doubt surrounding him that it would probably succeed. Then it will come down to how town scum has been appearing to get the last mislynch and win. I am against giving scum the upper hand and lynching someone I believe to be town. GameRager and Scene are both low hanging fruit and I think scum are counting on that.
Posted June 21, 2019
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trentonlf: Thank you everyone for the well wishes!

Yes Joe, my real name is Joe ;-)

Here’s my last food for thought and why I believe GameRager is a bad lynch. As I said I believe he’s town and it will be a mislynch. So if there are two scum left they need three mislynhces and three successful NK’s, lynching GameRager is the first step to making that happen. After GameRager my guess is Scene will be the next to be pushed for a mislynch as he has enough doubt surrounding him that it would probably succeed. Then it will come down to how town scum has been appearing to get the last mislynch and win. I am against giving scum the upper hand and lynching someone I believe to be town. GameRager and Scene are both low hanging fruit and I think scum are counting on that.
**Oh....I thought dedoporno was making a joke.**


Low hanging fruit or not, if they're scum they should be lynched.

I really wish the wagon on me would get some traction so I could point and laugh as you try to make some sense of the wreckage.
Posted June 21, 2019
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trentonlf: I know my activity this game has not been the best and I apologize, but it will not get any better over the next few days. My oldest daughter Grace who just finished the chemo a couple of months ago will be getting married on Sunday so I will be pretty busy until then. Going to be a great weekend :-D
Congratulations; I hope it'll be an absolutely lovely weekend!

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supplementscene: So to clarify the odds of a Town Roleblocker coming up is either 3% or 4%?
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JoeSapphire: 5%
one-in-twenty
The odds of a single die coming up "B" is 5%.
Seven dice were rolled.
So the odds of no "B" coming up are 0.95*0.95*0.95*... = 69.8%. Which means that there's a 30% chance that there's at least one town roleblocker in the game.

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dedoporno: Speaking of convenience I just realized something - the Town roleblocker is the least likely role to appear. Mafia claiming it has that much lower risk of an actual Town roleblocker disputing the claim as that require at least 3 B's to be drawn from the range of 96-100.
How do you arrive at 3Bs being necessary?
"Disputing" in this game is always hard, as there's a chance of two tonies with the same role. However, the chance of 3Bs being rolled is very low, so a real town roleblocker would be rightly suspicious of a mafia claiming to be town roleblocker, as the odds of that are very low. Which means that it's actually more risky for mafia to claim town roleblocker.

Not liking how you're misunderstanding the mechanics here in such a way as to cast suspicion on GR (who doesn't need any help in that department).

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flubbucket: How would keeping GameRager alive benefit town?? If he's lying then he's killing. If he's truthing, then he's going to be killed ...or NOT and used as WIFOM.
Or if he's truthing, he's going to have a chance to prevent the NK, and win the game for us. Particularly if we're in the lone godfather scenario.
Posted June 21, 2019
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gogtrial34987: The odds of a single die coming up "B" is 5%.
Seven dice were rolled.
So the odds of no "B" coming up are 0.95*0.95*0.95*... = 69.8%. Which means that there's a 30% chance that there's at least one town roleblocker in the game.
All right yeah if you want to work ALL of it out.



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flubbucket: I really wish the wagon on me would get some traction so I could point and laugh as you try to make some sense of the wreckage.
Can we do it?? I think we should do it?

I'm guessing, flub, you think the Joes are both town. Is that right?
Posted June 21, 2019
Okay.

I'm going on record that GameRager is scum. I will be mocking with pelvic thrusts when I'm proven right.

Unvote: GameRager
Posted June 21, 2019
Urgh. Rereading D1 scene with the knowledge that SPF is mafia, has made him go way down in my likely scum ranking.

Next up...
vote Joe (pending a reread)
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