It's either one or two. And I don't really see how important scum roles are. Just assume there is a blocker and/or a godfather and go from there. On the flipside the scum have one foot in the grave now, maybe more. They need to start killing off important roles as they just don't have time to do fool around. So yeah, I'd rather hide Town PRs and assume the worst on scum numbers and roles and just lean on them until the last one gives in.

I see, unfortunately the fact is I am town so I assume I'm not doing a great job so far. Or am I?

This I didn't quite understand.

I'm sorry, but I have to poke a little fun at scene while it's still fresh.

Also Scene to ZFR in the first Discord game: Please carry on, don't mind me.

Hmm, you make a good point with that last one. o.0

Vote JoeSapphire

(Be aware that I am doing it mainly to see if you are scum trying to get town lynched, and if he is proven town and gets lynched I will have my sights on you the next day)

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I wouldn't do that.....;)

Hey all. Had a super exhausting day and evening. Just read over the thread, and saw lots of eyebrow-raising posts, but I find I lack the energy to dive in. Going to go play a game for a bit, and might try again in an hour, but I figure it's more likely that it'll be tomorrow.

I am suspicious of scene for the reasons I listed previously, so I am going with his vote and also voting the same. If Joe is proven town then I will vote for scene the next day as that will make me more suspicious of him.


Have fun and see ya then.

Nope, no scumbuddies for Joe!
I think thought he'd have a go at building a mislynch on his dear friend Joe and then didn't really give it much of a go and then didn't bother to think of a good way to back out of it. That interaction is what got me thinking that he could be scum, but I thought to myself "don't I always think SirP's scum?". Also blotunga was doing all that stuff...

Is it fair to say vehemently? That makes it sound like he was being pressured to remove his vote or vote someone else and he was sticking to it. Was that the case?

I didn't move to yours because I don't believe in it. Which other wagons should I have moved to?

Oh yeah that's true!! I've been flubbergasted before that Trent can be so certain as to not vote someone just because he thinks they're town!

But I just pointed out the significance of the second one, did you miss it? You must read EVERY word that i write they are ALL. nuggets. of. solid. gold. every. single. one.

and hmmmmmm....


yeah I guess that makes sense... I was considering only day phase but town knowing masons would be useful for night too I hadn't considered.

I think I think bookwyrm's town...


Well! Squidge the Primeape was ZFR's role in game 54, Laura Roslin was ZFR's role in game 53, Calluninski was the sample role in game 55 that ZFR hosted, and O'Leary or whatever it was was ZFR's role in the second Russian Roulette game! Also the film-set in space with a large conspicuous Sapphire is the setting for game 57, and the army tents on a mountain with evidence of a set of lovers and an innocent child is the setting for game 55 (the lovers were me and gogtrial and the innocent child was flub)

Oh yeah. Well I was thinking "who would target Carr?" and I thought "if somebody did it for a reason it would probably be someone who's familiar with his game, and as he's not played a full game around here for a while that narrows it down to flub, bookwyrm, dedo, trent, gogtrial. I had a look at those names and thought I'd ask the question to one of them hoping they'd spit out their tea, fall off their chair and stammer "how... how did you know??" while they struggle to put their wig back on. I'm not sure what to make of bookwyrm's response but I think I like it.

It wasn't an offer, it was just a question. I'm not ABSOLUTELY against scene's lunch, but he's on my "probably town" pile.


Yeah I was expecting someone to think this. I was deliberately holding off my explanation of my blotunga vote - did I explain that? I think I did. Anyway, despite pretty much all you say here being true, it's wrong, I'm not on SirP's team.

If it is 1, then we know any Cops are useless. If it is 2, then odds look good that any Town reads by Cops aren't being misled.

If it is 1, we know there aren't any more scum interactions to watch for. If it is 2, we can keep an eye out for the interaction, especially looking at wagons.

Either way, we know when we're at Mylo/Lylo.

At this point, the only PR I'm requesting claim is the Masons, because I think Town stands to gain a lot more than it risks.

Your information is wrong, therefore you didn't pay much attention to the setup page, therefore you aren't scum, because only scum are going to closely read the setup.

You are suspicious of scene and you would rather mislynch first and then go after scene than go for him directly? Wat?


Mason claims I do understand but I don't think gogtrial and Pooka were talking about masons.

As for the numbers I didn't look at things from this perspective. Mylo and Lylo are still quite far away to worry about.

Heh. I didn't mean it in that way and I'm pretty sure you are aware of that.

I'm back from being afk all day yesterday
will read and catch up asap

Vote Count

(When you see a vote count please quickly make sure your vote is against the correct player. Let me know if it's not)

JoeSapphire 2 - scene, GameRager
Micro 1 - trent

Everyone else - 0
Not voting: everyone else

10 players left. It takes 6 to lynch.

Interesting...though it hardly proves much(to me). I will think on it, though.

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Sounds good

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Ok then, but why use the word LUNCH instead of lynch yet again? Odd wording....sending singals to other scum/town or what?

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If that's true and you get lynched then I will gladly go after whoever voted you as suspect/possible scum, starting with scene.


As I said(how could I explain it simpler?): I will join the wagon and if Joe turns out town then I will analyze his wagon compared to the first day's wagon and pick the most likely suspect to vote next...which will likely be scene(He has been very defnsive/posted alot when confronted and also he started the wagon on Joe today).

When you get a moments your analysis of the latest posts from scene and JoeSapphire would be appreicated.

I've been a little busy. I was managing my passwords on Google, with the end goal being to have no passwords saved on Google, and having most passwords changed. As you can imagine, this took a bit of time that I could have used to play Mafia. However, I'll do a little something for now and hopefully I address the rest later.

If scene is scum trying to get town lynched, shouldn't the vote BE ON SCENE? It's strange that you're voting Joe on the premise that if he flips town, you'll keep your eyes on scene.

I'd vote scene if there was a wagon on him atm, but there isn't. If that changes I would gladly change my vote, though.

Judging by the previous day, scene was a wagon that went up to L-2 before blotunga's took over. Meanwhile, Joe didn't even have a one-vote wagon by the end of Previous day. I think he had a RVS vote on him or two, but that was it. It is more likely that by the end of htis day, Scene will have a sizeable wagon.

This logic of voting if there was a wagon would apply if it's nearly the end of the Day and you need a lynch to go through, but we're still at the start. Even Joe's wagon itself consists of only you and scene (wagon starter) so...I'm still confuzzled. You could have voted scene instead.