So you initially had a town read of me but after Bookwyrm replied to you saying 'it was mainly frustration vote'
What Bookwyrm actually said:
It's really frustrating, but the last time I saw him saying things that were wildly out of tune with the publicly available setup, he was scum.
The "Yes" question to an "or" question can of course be read either way, and he does use the word "frustrating", but these thing do not equal to him saying that "it was mainly
a frustration vote."
And then SPF and Joe both state 'this is typical Scene town play'.
You then state you read my prior play.
You have the order of things wrong. First
), I say I skimmed
your prior play, and then
SPF and Joe say they don't see you playing different from your regular town play.
Really? Am I stearing the conversation towards set up in this game?
What is this a response to?
And if you read those threads as you say you have can you state how I slipped in them?
Where did I state that you "slipped in them"?
You made bad assumptions about the setup, ignoring publicly available (mod-originated) information. You did so as both town and mafia, though more egregiously as mafia, and more importantly as town you tried to get clarification about the way the setup worked, while you didn't as mafia. I see the same behaviour in this game.
ALso you claim I 'started very strongly in game 57' - how so I barely posted until Day 2.
In game #57 I found both post #66
and post #102
good, strong, substansive and useful posts. You showed self-awareness and questioned people. Based on those posts, at that point, I would not have voted on you, as I'd have thought you a valuable contribution to the overall set of people trying to figure out the game. However, from memory about that game (this is not something I saw during my skim, as I only looked at your posts, and then only from the first several pages), these posts were also commented upon by several people, who wondered if it was a scum-tell, as it differed from your usual play.
Are you sure you actually read these games
I didn't read
those games. I skimmed your posts from the first couple of pages
of those games.
I really wish that mischaracterising things that were said previously would be AI for you; it would make all of this so much easier.
Now I don't think for a moment 4 Mafia and SK players can all be on a town wagon on Day 1. Personally if I was Mafia I'd want to stay off a town wagon and even jump off. But I think at least 1 of those players is dirty, maybe 2.
Honestly, if you're town, it wouldn't surprise me if your wagon was all-town. I can easily see scum just sitting back, predicting that you'll practically self-lynch.
(If you're scum, then I give high odds to agentcarr being your buddy, hopping on with an RVS vote in order to help slow down your wagon at a later point with some excuse.)
You didn't say I slipped in either game but I did slip in different ways and you don't note this. Several Town and Mafia players felt I fucked up early in both games where I played as Mafia. It had nothing to do with game setup though. But as you said you skimread the games then perhaps if you are Town you didn't note that.
As I mentioned to another player I never read the OP, I may skim it, but generally I just get on and focus on what players are saying.
As for my wagon being all town.....well you would say that if you were Mafia wouldn't you? But I can see I certainly have made Town players suspicious because while I have had 5 players on my wagon, I've also had at least 2 other players suspicious of me. Which makes a total of 7 game players.
But I still think spots 3, 4, 5 on any Town wagon are highly irresistible for the mafia player