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adaliabooks: While this is a possibility, I don't really see where Ix tried to defend or protect JMich at all. He was voting on him you remember. To be honest I find it much more likely the whole thing was a scheme cooked up by Hyper to defend Ix and get JMich lynched instead.
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HijacK: Take it this way: What plausible reason did Ix have for voting JMich? Exactly. None. That's how you deflect attention from something. While this JMich - Ix thing is nothing concrete, the evidence fits dedo's theory. But that could be situational. Regardless, it is easy to see how Ix could have landed a hand to JMich.

Ok, just like every town player, I like to think that we lynched scum, however, given the possibility that town lynches/kills(theory which is supported by Robb so far given the trust people give him) don't get flips, we don't know for sure Ix was scum anymore than him being a jester or an utter troll messing with our heads. I am putting him as something hurtful to town, but there is honestly no way we know right now for sure he was scum. This is where the coroner would have come in. We are literally back at square one with our theories. We don't know if it's town kills that don't trigger the flip, or the alignment of the target.
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Robbeasy: Just to state the Obvious - I will be standing Guard again tonight. If you're feeling suicidal, feel free to visit..;)
Alright! I'll see you at your crib.

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adaliabooks: I have to say I've never been quite sure what to make of him, but after the end of that day I have him leaning scum. I think he was Ix's scum buddy. Further more I wonder if we don't have multiple teams of two scum, so when Ix was going down Hyper took a desperate punt to try and save him knowing his chances of winning alone were slim. His final posts felt very much like mrkgnaos attempt to discredit Darko last game.
Let's assume that you're on to something here and Hyper as supposed scum tried to save Ix by throwing mud at JMich. How exactly did Hyper save Ix if he pointed out that all Ix is doing is deflect attention from JMich, thus in his theory the 2 of them were actually working together. Doesn't seem like deflection of attention to me. This combined with the fact Ix shot himself int he foot by voting JMich without good reason and in a confusing post doesn't sound like Hyper, a supposed scum in this scenario, would have any incentive or reason to save Ix.
D'oh. Let's try that again:

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adaliabooks: While this is a possibility, I don't really see where Ix tried to defend or protect JMich at all. He was voting on him you remember. To be honest I find it much more likely the whole thing was a scheme cooked up by Hyper to defend Ix and get JMich lynched instead.
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HijacK: Take it this way: What plausible reason did Ix have for voting JMich? Exactly. None. That's how you deflect attention from something. While this JMich - Ix thing is nothing concrete, the evidence fits dedo's theory. But that could be situational. Regardless, it is easy to see how Ix could have landed a hand to JMich.
But he had no reason for placing any of his other votes throughout the game either, look back at his posts. He pretty much randomly voted wherever he could.

I'm not really trying to defend JMich here, I have him leaning town but nowhere near confirmed, but I think Ix just jumped on JMich's wagon because he was scum and it looked like he could get a lynch. Just as all his votes had been placed through out the game, because he was scum.

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HijacK: Let's assume that you're on to something here and Hyper as supposed scum tried to save Ix by throwing mud at JMich. How exactly did Hyper save Ix if he pointed out that all Ix is doing is deflect attention from JMich, thus in his theory the 2 of them were actually working together. Doesn't seem like deflection of attention to me. This combined with the fact Ix shot himself int he foot by voting JMich without good reason and in a confusing post doesn't sound like Hyper, a supposed scum in this scenario, would have any incentive or reason to save Ix.
But when Hyper first posted that his intention was to get us to stop and think before hammering Ix. To think that maybe we should pursue and hammer JMich first as he might be more important in some way. Yes, the plan didn't work. But to me the whole premise was so ridiculous the only reason I can think of that he brought it up was to protect Ix.
But if they are part of a two man scum team then Hyper would have every reason to try and save him, because it's pretty much game over for him if his scum buddy died. Like I said, there's a lot of assumptions to be made there but I just don't see what the whole situation was about. I reread Ix's posts and the wagon and could see no where where Ix did anything to try and protect JMich or draw attention from him. Ix's lynch came together fast, he had more votes than JMich when he started posting and making himself seem scummier. At that point he was already the obvious target for the lynch, not JMich so how was digging himself in further helping JMich at all?

Which is why it seems Hyper pulled the whole idea out of his ass, and the only reason I can see to do so is a last ditch attempt to protect his scum buddy, even if just for one more night.
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HijacK: Oh, but please. I already explained my reasoning. I even linked you the post. Short memory?
On the contrary. I replied to that in the post you called Gibberish. Maybe you should try reading instead of dismissing, to see the holes in your reasoning?

Now, to remind ourselves again.

In post 1320 you said you knew what TB was doing in the outskirts of town, and who one of the other scum is, and that your findings will get as (sic) a scum lynched.
In post 1322 you said you had 0 flavor (even though you consider flavor oh so important), but you knew who TB visited.
In post 1323 you said you'd be ready for a full claim and analysis in 24 hours, due to your finals.
In post 1392 you say that TB visited Robb, and the alignment of Robb is open for debate. Plus you mention flavor that you got (Good Decision), even though you said you had 0 flavor before.
In post 1392 you apologized for the double post, and gave a theory that both cops may be genuine.
In post 1420 you said that any flavor for the night actions will be basic, and it may explain Robb's lack of info.
In post 1422, among other things, you say that you won't claim, since it will be a waste. Interesting how you don't give a reason, other than "As pointed out before by someone, I don't remember who, it would be a waste to reveal now." And along with your info on various mafia organizations, you give your thoughts on potential scum roles, say you think the flips are more complicated than affiliation, and chastise adalia for wishing we kept RW alive.
In post 1425 you say that you have theories which you evaluate (and haven't shared so far), you weren't expecting a PGO but due to Flub's hint you assumed TB visited scum (why? how does that make sense? Do you know that TB had a weak modifier?) and that you didn't investigate during N0, though logic dictates that this is an investigator claim.
In post 1462 you gave notice of inactivity, and said that you came to the conclusion that there must be a reason TB decided to visit Robb (well, duh), and if we can take a look to their posts.
In post 1474 you drop even more hints about your role, then say you don't want to give scum a clear idea of it (where did you say it exactly btw?), call Robb's statement about lack of info on his role BS, then say you've already explained why you thought Robb was scum (again, really really weak explanation, unless you had extra info you don't want to share).
In 1533, you give the posts where flavor importance was discussed and where you gave your explanation as to why Robb may be scum.
In post 1535 you joke about lack of percentages, then say this isn't a normal game and that you can exemplify later if needed, though you never did.

Then come your posts from the last 24 hours. Want me to analyze those as well?

So please, do not say you've already explained your reasoning. Do not link to your reasoning. Reason again, without omissions, and include the other possibilities you discarded, along with why you did so. After all, you do claim to know how logic works, don't you?

P.S. Thank you adaliabooks for your lovely script
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JMich: P.S. Thank you adaliabooks for your lovely script
No problem, it's really great isn't it? It was seeing Ix's posts laid out like that that absolutely convinced me he was scum. Gonna use it to do some rereads on others too when I get a chance and see what stands out.
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JMich: In post 1322 you said you had 0 flavor (even though you consider flavor oh so important), but you knew who TB visited.
And what's your problem with that? Either way, don't answer. I don't care what problem you have with the flavor.

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JMich: In post 1392 you say that TB visited Robb, and the alignment of Robb is open for debate. Plus you mention flavor that you got (Good Decision), even though you said you had 0 flavor before.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but flavor does not equal hint. Mind if I ask why did you change the 2 words?

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JMich: In post 1422, among other things, you say that you won't claim, since it will be a waste. Interesting how you don't give a reason, other than "As pointed out before by someone, I don't remember who, it would be a waste to reveal now."
The reason was given before hand. No need to claim since Robb claimed before me. Again, lack of memory?

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JMich: In post 1425 you say that you have theories which you evaluate (and haven't shared so far), you weren't expecting a PGO but due to Flub's hint you assumed TB visited scum (why? how does that make sense? Do you know that TB had a weak modifier?) and that you didn't investigate during N0, though logic dictates that this is an investigator claim.
I already explained this post and shared the theory, but you obviously don't get it, or want to appear as you don't get it, so don't bother me again with stuff you don't understand.

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JMich: In post 1474 you drop even more hints about your role, then say you don't want to give scum a clear idea of it (where did you say it exactly btw?), call Robb's statement about lack of info on his role BS, then say you've already explained why you thought Robb was scum (again, really really weak explanation, unless you had extra info you don't want to share).
You must be really bad at this. In the same post I explained to Robb that I tend to believe him. The theory regarding him being scum was the one that I thought of well before he claimed. Try to follow the events more closely.

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JMich: Then come your posts from the last 24 hours. Want me to analyze those as well?
Do what you want. So far you did a lamentable job.
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adaliabooks: But when Hyper first posted that his intention was to get us to stop and think before hammering Ix. To think that maybe we should pursue and hammer JMich first as he might be more important in some way. Yes, the plan didn't work. But to me the whole premise was so ridiculous the only reason I can think of that he brought it up was to protect Ix.
What am I, chopped liver? I was repeatedly saying not to hammer Ixy as well and go back to JMich... doesn't that make me scum trying to protect my scumbuddy? Aren't I scum too then?

Man, I never get the fun stuff.
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adaliabooks: But when Hyper first posted that his intention was to get us to stop and think before hammering Ix. To think that maybe we should pursue and hammer JMich first as he might be more important in some way. Yes, the plan didn't work. But to me the whole premise was so ridiculous the only reason I can think of that he brought it up was to protect Ix.
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yogsloth: What am I, chopped liver? I was repeatedly saying not to hammer Ixy as well and go back to JMich... doesn't that make me scum trying to protect my scumbuddy? Aren't I scum too then?

Man, I never get the fun stuff.
Go back to your corner, yogy. We got scum to catch here.
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adaliabooks: But when Hyper first posted that his intention was to get us to stop and think before hammering Ix. To think that maybe we should pursue and hammer JMich first as he might be more important in some way. Yes, the plan didn't work. But to me the whole premise was so ridiculous the only reason I can think of that he brought it up was to protect Ix.
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yogsloth: What am I, chopped liver? I was repeatedly saying not to hammer Ixy as well and go back to JMich... doesn't that make me scum trying to protect my scumbuddy? Aren't I scum too then?

Man, I never get the fun stuff.
Yeah, but you didn't post a huge long post when the person in question was at L-1 trying to say we should completely abandon the wagon and lynch someone else. You had been pushing for JMich's lynch half the day.

Believe me, you're not off the hook in my eyes. My arguments for being town are wearing away quite quickly and it's only the fact that you might be our town cop that's keeping me pursuing you yet.
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HijacK: Do what you want. So far you did a lamentable job.
So your "answer" is "Read again". Nice to know that you can explain something again if need be.
And you still haven't shared what you said you'd share (post 1535).

So yes, I will keep asking for you to honor your words and claim. Or do you have something to hide?

See, I can think of two possibilities. One is that you are a tracker that followed TB, then for some reason went after Robb, the other is that you are a Janitor sent against TB, and only found him after Robb had killed him. That would explain the lack of flip on that night kill, it would also show that we have 2+ scum factions, and it would also explain your reluctance to share.

Let's see what this night brings though, shall we?

Posts will resume on Day 3.
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HijacK: Do what you want. So far you did a lamentable job.
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JMich: So your "answer" is "Read again". Nice to know that you can explain something again if need be.
And you still haven't shared what you said you'd share (post 1535).

So yes, I will keep asking for you to honor your words and claim. Or do you have something to hide?

See, I can think of two possibilities. One is that you are a tracker that followed TB, then for some reason went after Robb, the other is that you are a Janitor sent against TB, and only found him after Robb had killed him. That would explain the lack of flip on that night kill, it would also show that we have 2+ scum factions, and it would also explain your reluctance to share.
I can think of another, which is that HijacK and Twilight were scum buddies, so when Twilight died HijacK knew who he had visited and thought to use it to false claim Tracker / Watcher and maybe get us to lynch our PGO in the process.
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JMich: So your "answer" is "Read again". Nice to know that you can explain something again if need be.
And you still haven't shared what you said you'd share (post 1535).
I'll say it one last time. Hopefully you'll understand.

I don't want to claim.

There' no need for me to do it now. I'll do it when I deem it necessary.
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adaliabooks: I can think of another, which is that HijacK and Twilight were scum buddies, so when Twilight died HijacK knew who he had visited and thought to use it to false claim Tracker / Watcher and maybe get us to lynch our PGO in the process.
This is an interesting idea I didn't think of. Yet I don't see the point of the second part, where HijacK claims one of the two roles to get us to lynch the PGO. If we assume said situation, considering how the entire interaction went, it would be more likely that HijacK fished Robbeasy out. This exact moment looked weird to me. He said

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HijacK: HOLY SHIT! If your logic makes sense, I.......I know what Twilight was doing at the outskirts of town. I am not ready to drop the bomb yet, but I think I know who one of the other scum is.
To me this looked like a developing idea based on his night action and the events that were announced in the morning post, but some time later on it was revealed that the night action actually gave specific knowledge about TB visiting Robbeasy. In the meantime Robbeasy came out on his own, whether it was driven by a desire to help, guilt or fear of HijacK exposing him is debatable and remains to be seen.
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HijacK: I don't want to claim.
By the way I'm on board with that decision. Why is there a need to do that now? What will it prove right now?
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adaliabooks: I can think of another, which is that HijacK and Twilight were scum buddies, so when Twilight died HijacK knew who he had visited and thought to use it to false claim Tracker / Watcher and maybe get us to lynch our PGO in the process.
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dedoporno: This is an interesting idea I didn't think of. Yet I don't see the point of the second part, where HijacK claims one of the two roles to get us to lynch the PGO. If we assume said situation, considering how the entire interaction went, it would be more likely that HijacK fished Robbeasy out. This exact moment looked weird to me. He said

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HijacK: HOLY SHIT! If your logic makes sense, I.......I know what Twilight was doing at the outskirts of town. I am not ready to drop the bomb yet, but I think I know who one of the other scum is.
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dedoporno: To me this looked like a developing idea based on his night action and the events that were announced in the morning post, but some time later on it was revealed that the night action actually gave specific knowledge about TB visiting Robbeasy. In the meantime Robbeasy came out on his own, whether it was driven by a desire to help, guilt or fear of HijacK exposing him is debatable and remains to be seen.
Yep, it looked like a developing idea. And if you were going to try and pretend your knowledge of a scum buddies action was info gained from a role, and use that to try and lynch someone isn't that how you would do it?
I'm gonna give HijacK some credit here, he may be annoying and arrogant but I'm fairly sure he's not stupid. He likes to tell us how it's all just a persona, which would suggest decent acting ability, so why not pretend to be shocked that the result of his night action reveals useful info?

Let's look at this again. HijacK was there when Flub posted the morning post, he knew who had died and presumably had the results of his own actions. A day later he posts saying he thinks he knew what happened to Twilight.
Why did it take him a whole day to realise that having followed one of the dead players and got a result might be useful info?
Fair enough deciding to share that is another step, and making a connection to what actually happened is too, but when HijacK posted it looked like the idea had just come to him that it could be of any interest at all.

It's just an option, not based on a lot of solid evidence, but we need to keep these things in mind. I do have HijacK as tending to town and I tend to believe his claim, but I think the case needs to be considered that he might not be.