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No flip?

@adaliabooks: I believe the Werewolf game didn't feature card flips and it had a single seer (Cop), so I don't see it as that much of a confirmation, even though I hear where you're coming from.

I'm not saying it's guaranteed, not by a long shot. But everyone seems ready to right CSPVG off and I can see it being reasonable to have two cops under these circumstances.

Also with CSPVG's name, my character's name is Mexican. The name of the ranch is Mexican: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licuado

I'm fairly sure the setting is Mexican (inspired anyway). So I buy his claim. The only thing not to like is the apparent dislike the character has for milk (but, if it was a false claim and CSPVG had sought out this name to back up his claim, why would he chose a character knowing this would be a flag?)

And I want yog's name. I think there may be something to learn from it, or worse, something he's hiding in it.

And as yogs seems to be dropping the ball with wild theories, here's one of my own:

RWarehall lied. He wasn't a Serial Killer, he was a scum restrictor. He confessed after yogs said he just got an 'anti town' result. Flub's flavour post mentions his finger prints on the tape used to silence people, but nothing about serial killing. Ok, this may just be flavour, or it might be a clue from flub instead of a role reveal. He claimed Serial Killer thinking that we might just allow him to live, meaning he could restrict someone again. I would love to see if anyone got a pm telling them they had a limit on their posts for Day 1, if they are allowed to mention it.
Unfortunately, there is no real why to prove it. But I think it's certainly worth considering his posts in that light and seeing if anything stands out.

So, RWarehall was lynched, yet flub, for all the drama described in his post, took us to night without giving us anything to work with.
Now I see why the thread is open during night for talks - without getting results from the lynches, it's all one long day spiced up with lynches (for the amusement of our mod no doubt), and actions that happen behind the scenes (night actions).

I fear that flub's "no reveal" is not a one-time thing, and seeing how flub is handling things so far, perhaps we need to start thinking outside the box more, and the more experienced players should perhaps consider to not clinch so much to what their experience from previous (more standard/ conventional) games has taught them.

It could be nth, and flub could have just used pieces of what we said to flavour the story, but I find the duct tape piece interesting.


I already mentioned this yesterday, but no one seemed to be interested in this case.


Not sure if you're serious or not. You carried over your suspicions of yogsloth from the previous game and based your decision about how to use your night action on those?
I'd like to hear what others think of this explanation, because it leaves me unsatisfied. Unless I misunderstood your explanation.


This stands regardless if you're telling the truth or not.


Not that it matters now, but I was genuinely puzzled by your actions and couldn't decide what your reasons and goals were. And with flub revealing nth about your role, I'm still uncertain of your motives.


I got to run now, but will try to come back later today.

I presume you mean the bit about him having used his power?

I just assumed at lynch we would know more and be able to judge his sincerity, so didn't consider it much then. Now, knowing we have no clue whether he was lying or not, I think we should look at it more. Besides, if he did restrict someone, I imagine they wouldn't be allowed to speak until night, or the next day. So they may not be able to reveal it yet, or at all.

I can't see crew being the victim of this, as she has been absent from the forums entirely as far as I can tell. But maybe some of the lurkers like JMich or CSPVG had a limit put on the number of posts they could make?

But I think to me the more important question, is could he have been scum? I found his behaviour odd all game, but his confession and posts afterwards seemed somewhat sincere. But his advice, like his take on HijacK, could easily be a set up (to protect or incriminate him) once he died and flipped scum, not knowing that would not happen.

I admit, Serial Killer seems an odd claim to make for scum to try and save themselves, but under the circumstance with him being confirmed anti town it might have been the best bet to make some kind of deal.

Oh, flub!

I think that based on how RW went about his claim (and how much fun he had with it near the end), it's very likely that he was telling about his role. We got lucky this time since his alignment was never in question, but I guess it will be very interesting to see if the no flip thing was a one-time fluke or if it extends to NKs as well. It's going to get crazy if the latter is the case.


Because people lurk in these games no matter what. Unless it's a power that has retroactively worked in past games I don't think it's a scenario worth examining much. Unless we think that someone chose to silence Crewdroog. :D

Damn, just saw the clock. 3 days and 9 hours. :(

Fair enough, thank you for confirming that.

And lets face it, as Darko has mentioned, people lurk all the time anyway. And why would you chose to silence players who are already known for being quite lurky or quiet? As opposed to someone who is generally more vocal and their keeping quite might be seen as suspicious.

And already the idea of RWarehall being scum looks less and less likely (which I suppose is a good thing). If he was scum I can't see him not using his power to sow a bit of confusion, and the whole idea of claiming Serial Killer to prevent a lynch is unlikely at best.

If one of the most vocal players is silenced for a day, people will accept the possibility of him/her being silenced as plausible. If I said that I didn't post due to a post restriction, would I be telling the truth or trying to cover my lurkiness? And what about getting a post restriction on a day with stuff I wanted to comment on or point out?

There are reasons to silence a lurky player, as well as to silence a vocal one. Depends on the strategy of the restrictor I'd say.

Flub you are a mean man >:-(

From RW's posts he was either messing with us abot the Serial Killer role or he really was. I think he really was.

@Flub
Are we getting a replacement for crewdroog or are we still waiting?

I sent her a couple of messages, but I've not heard anything back yet. P1na said he would "possibly" be able to sub, but not until after the holidays.

I would really like for Crewdroog to continue if at all possible.

I don't think she would have any trouble playing catch up this early in the game.

Good, I think crew will have fun with the game and I would hate to see her miss out even if we have a crazy mod ;-)

I am too late to vote? I thought we would have a bit more time before the lynch. But then again, since we are allowed to talk at night and the target was clear anyhow, there's no harm done. The discussions can continue.

Onward with the quotes:
No. I don't think it does. You created confusion in a bad moment, damaging town. Worse than a later confusion would have been, I think. The sensible thing to do, if you were a town cop, would have been to watch, investigate and draw conclusions. Instead you created confusion and opened a second target to night-attacks. So I stand by my impression that your claim was either very bad play from a townie or risky, but smart play from a scummie. And I rather see you as scummy and smart.


Well, he did claim to be a restrictor, which fits the tape. But of course he might have been lying about his affiliation and may have been regular scum instead of lone SK. But I don't see any way of finding that out now.



Your 'style' unfortunately isn't. It is annoying and, worse, un-helpful. You claim to have information that others missed, but you refuse to share it. You hide behind your "I play rough"-style as a justification for not trying to help. THAT is the reason why your play is called 'anti-town'. You even say that you're not even going to bother to clarify your vague statements, even though a clarification would help town, if there were any substance behind your vague hints.
So if you were town, your behaviour would not be 'playing rough' but 'playing stupid'. As scum, however, your self chosen style moniker would fit. Yes, you might be scum 'playing rough' - trying to silence discussions you don't like. Attacking new players and throwing in vague accusations or hints which you then don't bother to explain. So I believe that you are not damaging town out of ignorance, but that it is actually your intent to be un-helpful and that you therefore are scum.

Sundays are a hard day for me to get online in the morning and this morning / afternoon even more.. I have to go to my in-laws to fix their PC... who only knows what she did to it.. I have a few min before we leave so I am going to try to catch up on everything I missed when I was sleeping.

Well, when they ask what is needed to fix it, reply with this.