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flurrycream: Yeah it sucks.
I think hate crime laws should only be applied when there is abuse that is borderline physical, very obviously harming someone or targeting someone in a way that is bullying (yet actual important cases are missed).
But just talking about your opinions in public or online that is not abuse, but can be counted as so. If you are handing out leaflets or something, even if it is something like I wouldn't agree with, it shouldn't be banned. I guess even the word hate crime sounds a bit orwellian, speaking out against a group and that, thought crimes, statism and censorship.
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GameRager: Recently some chaps in the UK running for office have been being "milkshaked" by protestors/opposition and there are those who cheer it yet decry others being treated the same way....it's saddening to say the least.

Also the one dude who covered his face to avoid the new UK face scanner trials got a 90 pound(around 100 dollar) fine because of it and people said he shouldn;t do it if he's got nothing to hide/etc.
Privacy I guess isn't a thing anymore or something.
It is scary how you can't escape these things easily (idk unless you don't ever leave your house, or you are in some "third world" country).
Snapchat stores peoples photos and can use them like developing face recognition software, but at least snapchat is optional.
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Nicole28: Wasn't the fiasco involving Grimore talked about already sometime ago? I don't believe GOG is either "SJW" or "Right-wing". What is visible, is that GOG has several finicky levels of curation criteria that they base on to accept games, and I would need to find out what that is before making a judgement on their stances.
Yes, it was discussed. The baseline conclusion was: The author's presence would be toxic to an already volatile community, no matter where you stand.
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flurrycream: There is a lot of hostility at gay people actually even in the places that are supposed to be accepting, (though things in western societies are a lot better due to invidualism). Or just generally those who don't conform to society. If your gay and you hold hands in public if you arent careful you could face a lot of abuse, not just verbal but physical in some cases. Or if your lesbian then some guys will go and say things like I can make you "heterosexual" in a threatening sense.
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LootHunter: And if you are straight guy with a girl, some guys can go and say that you are not good enough and punch you in the face, and then approach the girl in agressive way.

Gay people are not the only ones who can become victims.
Of course not, but in that scenario, it's not the guy's sexual orientation that was the issue. And even if it was, that's an unusual thing to occur. It would be serious and should be taken seriously, but it's intellectually dishonest to equate those two possibilities.

Also, Russia has a terrible record on LGBTQ rights.
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hedwards: Also, Russia has a terrible record on LGBTQ rights.
So what does that have to do with anything?

Or what, bringing that up just to rub it in the face of someone who hasn't said anything against gay people and seems to support the egalitarian worldview and had nothing to do with the situtation is somehow going to fix things? Or make them admit their fault when there's no real fault to admit?
Or is it going to actually push them away?

Have you ever considered why does Russia have such a record with the LGBT rights?
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LootHunter: Well, on my part it's simply consern that if I don't provide counterpoint to SJWs, who claim that we live in white suprematist patriarchy and if I so much as wince to man-on-man sex - I must have desire to kill all gay, some people can start thinking that SJWs are right.

Actually, it's not. It's people, who simply don't want to excercise critical thinking and do research, are immune to reason.
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Chakyash: Or you and OP could just go to political websites and talk about that nonsense all day long. Some people here are right there is so much buzzwords about these so-called SJWs every single week, that every change that happens on GOG it must be work of these SJWs.
I miss the days when people would majority of time talk about games, companies and DRM. Nowadays the Steam refugees are using GOG as their safe space to complain about SJWs and other nonsense, while at the same time they don't even care if GOG becomes successful or not.
Or maybe other people here could AVOID the threads that might contain stuff they don't want to see or read? I mean that's just common sense.....you wouldn't think it common sense for a vegan to go into a butcher shop and then be shocked at/complain that they're selling meat, now would you? :\

The OP made a thread with a charged subject, I agree, but one look at the title(with the word SJW) would tell one that they shouldn't bother entering it due to it's subject matter. Those who dislike such on GOG(SJW talk on either side) that come into said threads and subject themselves to such have mostly themselves to blame if they saw the title and entered anyway. If one doesn't like a thread title topic what should one do, then? Enter and get mad/complain or just avoid it?

Also: Comparing all those who talk about such(even if indirectly) to steam forums users and that such people dislike GOG is a cheap shot.



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LootHunter: Yes, that's exactly the nonsense I try to oppose and debunk. "Steam refugees"? WTF?! Not only Valve officially declared Steam as platform with minimal censorship, most forums there are far more free for discussion than here.

And yes, I too miss the good old days, when every second game didn't try to push SJ and PC agendas at my throat. So if you want talk about games and companies - remind me, why developers of "Not Tonight" used Brexit as a starting point of their distopian UK?
It makes me laugh and cry/sigh to see this lowrated.....it would seem many GOG users dislike SJW talk on the forums yet they don't mind it in their games & media.

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GameRager: Recently some chaps in the UK running for office have been being "milkshaked" by protestors/opposition and there are those who cheer it yet decry others being treated the same way....it's saddening to say the least.

Also the one dude who covered his face to avoid the new UK face scanner trials got a 90 pound(around 100 dollar) fine because of it and people said he shouldn;t do it if he's got nothing to hide/etc.
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flurrycream: Privacy I guess isn't a thing anymore or something.
It is scary how you can't escape these things easily (idk unless you don't ever leave your house, or you are in some "third world" country).
Snapchat stores peoples photos and can use them like developing face recognition software, but at least snapchat is optional.
With many areas having regulations(only done in the name of safety, supposedly) on wearing face coverings in most public areas it's becoming harder and harder to avoid such tech.
Post edited May 26, 2019 by GameRager
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hedwards: Also, Russia has a terrible record on LGBTQ rights.
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KentGAllard: So what does that have to do with anything?

Or what, bringing that up just to rub it in the face of someone who hasn't said anything against gay people and seems to support the egalitarian worldview and had nothing to do with the situtation is somehow going to fix things? Or make them admit their fault when there's no real fault to admit?
Or is it going to actually push them away?

Have you ever considered why does Russia have such a record with the LGBT rights?
Calm down man! XD

Sounds to me like someone is a tad insecure about something. :P
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KentGAllard: So what does that have to do with anything?

Or what, bringing that up just to rub it in the face of someone who hasn't said anything against gay people and seems to support the egalitarian worldview and had nothing to do with the situtation is somehow going to fix things? Or make them admit their fault when there's no real fault to admit?
Or is it going to actually push them away?

Have you ever considered why does Russia have such a record with the LGBT rights?
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tinyE: Calm down man! XD

Sounds to me like someone is a tad insecure about something. :P
Errr... insecure about what?
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tinyE: Calm down man! XD

Sounds to me like someone is a tad insecure about something. :P
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KentGAllard: Errr... insecure about what?
He just likes to joke around/mess with those he dislikes the opinions of, and sometimes also just for laughs.
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hedwards: Also, Russia has a terrible record on LGBTQ rights.
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KentGAllard: So what does that have to do with anything?

Or what, bringing that up just to rub it in the face of someone who hasn't said anything against gay people and seems to support the egalitarian worldview and had nothing to do with the situtation is somehow going to fix things? Or make them admit their fault when there's no real fault to admit?
Or is it going to actually push them away?

Have you ever considered why does Russia have such a record with the LGBT rights?
First off, a comment like yours legitimizing this sort of trouble living in a country with such a terrible human rights record on the issue is definitely a legitimate reason for pointing out.

Secondly, you're country has that kind of a reputation for a reason. It's a bit baffling to me that you don't seem to know about the official crackdowns on LGBTQ people in recent years. This isn't a western conspiracy, it's based upon things that the government really has done.
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GameRager: it would seem many GOG users dislike SJW talk on the forums yet they don't mind it in their games & media.
Maybe because I can easily ingore the insipid game and forget it exists, while the constant war of the morons between the Social Justice Warriors vs Social Injustice Gang playing out in the forum has turned it into an unuseable toxic dumpster fire.
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GameRager: it would seem many GOG users dislike SJW talk on the forums yet they don't mind it in their games & media.
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Breja: Maybe because I can easily ingore the insipid game and forget it exists, while the constant war of the morons between the Social Justice Warriors vs Social Injustice Gang playing out in the forum has turned it into an unuseable toxic dumpster fire.
It's still the same thing if you subjecgt yourself to it....also isn't calling it a toxic dumpster fire a good bit hyperbolic? This isn't the steam forums or the worse parts of reddit, after all.

Also, in general, why would anyone against such topics come into such threads in the first place? If they're clearly marked as such one would think those against them would avoid them.

Such talk is part of current events/society and as such people are going to talk about it on occasion....such is life.
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hedwards: First off, a comment like yours legitimizing this sort of trouble living in a country with such a terrible human rights record on the issue is definitely a legitimate reason for pointing out.

Secondly, you're country has that kind of a reputation for a reason. It's a bit baffling to me that you don't seem to know about the official crackdowns on LGBTQ people in recent years. This isn't a western conspiracy, it's based upon things that the government really has done.
First of all, in which way is my comment legitimizing anything? I didn't say that it was a good thing. What I did say is that bringing it up just to rub it in someone's face as if it was their fault (or mine, for that matter) isn't going to fix it. Or change anyone's mind. Then again, you don't even know if my mind needs changing and you don't even know what my (or his) stance is since you never actually bothered to ask, assuming you know everything there is to know without any evidence.

What I also did say, is that there's a reason behind this sort of thing happening. A wise man would ask what this reason is so they could maybe learn how to stop this from happening.

Well yeah, I don't know about the "crackdowns". I know that the pride parades are outlawed, I know there was a rather disgusting attempt at equating gays with pedophiles by one one of the deputies of the State Duma but you make it sound as if there are government-sanctioned Spetsnaz raids on gay night clubs or that the people are forced to wear pink triangles or something, which is baffling in itself.
I think SJW is a childish term/acronym that idiots use to describe someone that they disagree with.
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qwixter: I think SJW is a childish term/acronym that idiots use to describe someone that they disagree with.
That's funny. I thought that was used to describe patriarchal, racist, misogynist, shitlords. What, no tit for tat? Goose and gander? Does your universal translator not work?
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qwixter: I think SJW is a childish term/acronym that idiots use to describe someone that they disagree with.
Some do this, but there are those who wear the moniker with pride who are actually pretty offensive in the name of tolerance sometimes.