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Crisco1492: Agree. After all, there are signs that Monster Prom 2 (by some people who identify themselves as SJWs) might not come to GOG either. It's not at the point that an official approval/rejection can be issued, but remember that the first game took six months to reach GOG. If GOG were to simply promote an ideology, wouldn't it want such an unabashedly progressive game as soon as possible?
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LootHunter: Haven't GOG already have Monster Prom?
Yes. They got it six months after it initially dropped. The sequel's arrival here is what's not certain.
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BlueMooner: To them, zero representation is seemingly preferred, and 1% is "pushing an agenda down our throats".
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LootHunter: BS. No one complained about The Longest Journey, Immortals, or Dune. Heck, everyone was Ok with Doctor Who, until they started to push agenda last (well, actually previous to last) season.
Dr who has had like themes that for a while now.
I dont wanna call it sjw though there is nothing wrong at least with minorities included just to make it more relatable or diverse for interest although the way they try to make a political statement with said stories is eh.
But coupled with bad writing and the lack of subtly in such themes taking over the whole show I think yeah doctor who has gone down hill.
Plus the fact the show isnt even about the monsters anymore but the people. It was meant to be fun entertainment but now idk what it is meant to be. The actors are alright mostly suffering the terrible scripting. But they cannot get the focus right having too many characters, and they dont even focus on the doctor very much anymore, the doctor is almost like a side character.
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BlueMooner: All my life I've seen people complain about sexual minorities appearing in things, particularly positive portrayals. Same for racial minorities. Just because you haven't, or haven't personally engaged in such, does not mean it hasn't occurred. And to repeat, all this is my perspective. Everyone's experience is different.
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LootHunter: Well, MY perspective is that most people don't care about race, gender, sexuality, etc. Yes, there are straight people who don't like, or even outright hate gays. But there are also people among gays, who hate straights. I personally saw how on one forum a gay guy said that one of the main problem today is overpopulation and it's straight people's fault.
There is a lot of hostility at gay people actually even in the places that are supposed to be accepting, (though things in western societies are a lot better due to invidualism). Or just generally those who don't conform to society. If your gay and you hold hands in public if you arent careful you could face a lot of abuse, not just verbal but physical in some cases. Or if your lesbian then some guys will go and say things like I can make you "heterosexual" in a threatening sense.
It's just less noticeable to those who don't face it. Like sexism for women or discrimination against minority races. The difference being is that sexuality is something you can hide and therefore many people choose to do that, everyone assumes you are heterosexual until you say you are not. You only notice things like sexuality, race or gender when they affect you. I also think there are still a lot of people who do not like certain minorities whether it is based on stereotypes or bad experiences.

Tbh while that argument of it being straight peoples fault that overpopulation is not true nor a great thing to say, it is only the reverse of what often is said about gay people not having children being different from the natural order etc. So I can see where that view comes from or used in defense. I don't think hate is good for anyone however.
Post edited May 25, 2019 by flurrycream
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truhlik: Oh no, not again...
Popcorn ready:)
I'll get the beer.
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XYCat: ah, the weekly "DAE GOG = SJWs hurr durr!" thread
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LootSeeker:
thanks for the picture, although I have no idea what's the meaning or point of it, or what am I even looking at.
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LootHunter: BS. No one complained about The Longest Journey, Immortals, or Dune. Heck, everyone was Ok with Doctor Who, until they started to push agenda last (well, actually previous to last) season.
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flurrycream: Dr who has had like themes that for a while now.
That was kinda my point. Doctor Who had Jack Harkness, aliens with various kinds of sexual practices, and episodes on various social topics in general. And everyone was Ok with it.

Only in the latest seasons, when depiction of those topics became one-sided and overtly heavy-handed people started to complain. I don't have ironclad proof that writers deliberately push SJ and PC agenda, maybe it's just a bad writing with the lack of subtlety and nuance. But the result is the same - political messages ARE shoved down to viewers' throats.
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Standing in the way of Massive Incline is not a wise decision. One of these days, the Golden Baby shall spread its wings over GoG and there will be much rejoicing.
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LootHunter: That was kinda my point. Doctor Who had Jack Harkness, aliens with various kinds of sexual practices, and episodes on various social topics in general. And everyone was Ok with it.

Only in the latest seasons, when depiction of those topics became one-sided and overtly heavy-handed people started to complain. I don't have ironclad proof that writers deliberately push SJ and PC agenda, maybe it's just a bad writing with the lack of subtlety and nuance. But the result is the same - political messages ARE shoved down to viewers' throats.
Of course, that's just been a problem with Doctor Who in general; not so much the idea that it always pushes for being PC, but rather that the writers get stuck in ruts or some of the staff get it in their head to try and send a message; the episode The Happiness Patrol was essentially a gong subtle parody of Thatcherism, featuring no less than a killer robot made of candy.
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LootHunter: That was kinda my point. Doctor Who had Jack Harkness, aliens with various kinds of sexual practices, and episodes on various social topics in general. And everyone was Ok with it.

Only in the latest seasons, when depiction of those topics became one-sided and overtly heavy-handed people started to complain. I don't have ironclad proof that writers deliberately push SJ and PC agenda, maybe it's just a bad writing with the lack of subtlety and nuance. But the result is the same - political messages ARE shoved down to viewers' throats.
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Darvond: Of course, that's just been a problem with Doctor Who in general; not so much the idea that it always pushes for being PC, but rather that the writers get stuck in ruts or some of the staff get it in their head to try and send a message; the episode The Happiness Patrol was essentially a gong subtle parody of Thatcherism, featuring no less than a killer robot made of candy.
HA classic doctor who (at the point when dr who was losing it) Well there was that joke about there being a actual episode about margaret thatcher.
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flurrycream: HA classic doctor who (at the point when dr who was losing it) Well there was that joke about there being a actual episode about margaret thatcher.
Do I detect the scent of onions, perhaps?
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bler144: But there's not a lot of evidence GoG is taking every other possible dungeon crawler and that Grimoire is somehow singled out for politics. If anything, rejecting a dungeon crawler that doesn't have the sales numbers of a Grimrock seems to fit a larger pattern in its own right.

Will I probably end up buying Grimoire on Steam someday? Maybe. Of the list above, I bought 3 already, and will probably continue slowly picking up other dungeon crawlers as sales/cash allow.
You make a good point that logically you'd expect more dungeon crawlers to be included if it was based on politics...but I am also unfamiliar with those games and what may or may not be political bases for them. Still, there is Serment (which I have not ruled out looking into buying at some point), which is surely also a niche game if not outright more niche. Also, if you are looking to buy the game can I implore you to consider buying it on a store that supports DRM-free, like itch? Steam doesn't need any more money :)
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I wonder if this was what it was like when Dylan went Electric?
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Wow, right on time.
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rjbuffchix: Still, there is Serment (which I have not ruled out looking into buying at some point), which is surely also a niche game if not outright more niche.
I wasn't familiar with Serment, so I looked it up. From the GoG product page: "Serment - Contract with a Devil (or Serment, for short) is a visual novel - dungeon crawler hybrid where you play as a girl who was revived by a beautiful devil."

Like it or not, I think the answer is there in bold. ;)

I guess while technically Serment does seem to have a dungeon crawler component, it seems to be targeting the larger JRPG/VN crowd, and ties in with GoG's recent push towards those markets.

Vs. what (even as a fan of them) I'd have to agree is a bit more niche in terms of either Wizardry/M&M derivatives (The Quest, Grimoire) or more streamlined/modern Grimrock knock-offs (Ruzar, Fall of the Dungeon Guardians).

Will that pay off for them/Is it a wise business strategy? IDK. But it seems fairly consistent to me.


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lol - here are the game's "features":

Game features:
Cute anime girls!
4 playable main characters, each with their own unique story and endings.
More than 10 side characters, each with their own personalities and subplots.
A dungeon crawler with manually designed puzzles and 100+ unique items to discover!
A lot of cute anime girls!
Turn-based RPG battles with simple mechanics but tons of depth.
A detailed dating sim time management system.
Cooking, crafting and fishing minigames!
Light yuri (GxG) romance.
Did we mention that there will be cute anime girls?



Yeah, no disrespect, but that's not the same genre <at all> as Grimoire.
Post edited May 25, 2019 by bler144
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we have enough crappy weeb games on GOG dnt need anymore of them, still waiting for decent games to come here not random ones that are just dumped on GOG cos epic or steam didnt want them