God you Linux people are pathetic. You guys just don't wanna realize that with a measly market share of 3% on Desktop Computers it would be wise to shut up and simply accept that nobody gives a fuck about a minorty below 5%. Instead you guys cry and bitch, feeling entitled to get a port of everything on your cheapsakte shit OS.

But it's always hilarious to read who the Penguin-Fuckers sometimes cry for years and years that a game totally should be ported to the crap OS because they are entitled to get it andwith the money from 100 people buying it (during a special sale) is totally worth it :D

Since it's been so long for someone to post here, for a second there I had hoped that one of the blue ones posted here an announcement for the GOG Galaxy Linux client.

1) As much as I dislike Valve and Steam, they actually deem Linux's market share (present or future) worthy of their support, whereas GOG doesn't.

2) Mac/OSX market share (at least for gaming) isn't much higher, but still they get considerably more games and apps (GOG Galaxy included).

I'll be surprised if they release a Linux client before the client goes out of beta. They seem more focused on trying to finish off long awaited features and stabilize the client which is far more important IMHO. Makes sense to concentrate development efforts on the largest userbase than to split their development efforts putting 20/30/50% of effort on 2-3% of the userbase right now. I say this as a long term (1994 to date) Linux developer, user and advocate also. They'll get there eventually, but there is a lot more pressing work to be done right now IMHO.

IMHO I don't think that Valve support for Linux really has anything to do with them deeming Linux market share worthy of their attention but everything to do with them being afraid of the Windows Marketplace and the shares they could lose should Microsoft decide to wall-gardenize Windows.

If it wasn't for Gabe's Windows 8 panic attack of a couple of years back I am not sure their support for Linux would have been the same.

Windows is headed towards a walled garden, Linux will soon be the only open desktop OS deserving that name. The current Linux market share is fairly irrelevant, when you consider the following:

- Linux was not a viable option for gamers in the past and dual booting was a pain.

- There are many more good reasons to move away from Windows 10 than, say, Windows XP.

- Steam and GoG risk having to fork over a share of their revenue to Microsoft, if they don't break their gaming OS dominance before the Window Store becomes a requirement for selling software on the platform.

- With Vulcan there is a great multi-platform 3D architecture negating any advantages Windows had with its proprietary DirectX.

- Gaming aside, the Linux desktop has come a long way, but really only recently. Windows 10 isn't in any way superior to Ubuntu or Mint.

- Linux support doubles as entry ticket to the Steam Maschine console.

- Virtually every modern game engine supports Linux. Developers don't have to jump through hoops getting things to run on Linux anymore.

As all those indy developers offering Linux ports mature and earn the funds to produce glossy AAA titles, the Linux platform will grow. Maybe its the ruin of Microsoft, maybe it'll stay on OSX "niche" level. But the OS will be significant in the future. Listening to the verbose minority now will yield revenue in the future.

It is always funny to see people against Linux posting in threads like this.

One of the reasons why Linux doesn't have a huge share in the gaming market is because of the lack of support, not the lack of an audience. If developers would just get their heads out of the sand they would understand this. We Penguins are very patient and usually very silent, but we exist in plentiful.

Also, I bet that if it were possible to open up Photoshop etc or any (most) games on Linux, people wouldn't be dishing out $100(+) on an OS anymore with ultra crappy support every time they ran out of their rightfully bought product key usages or if they switch motherboards (thanks WinX). People who support Microsoft dominating the market are foolish and so are business or developers, especially now when it is getting support so much (with like Cloud Imperium Games developing Star Citizen for Linux or Steam doing SteamOS).


Well...maybe if we keep this thread alive GOG will finally notice and at least give us an update concerning the Linux client.

I'd like to say you are right, but how much many end-users are adverse change in their experience might surprise you.

Windows took the desktop market by storm in the 90s and it was in every school. As a result, many people lost their computer virginity to Windows either at home or a school and are extremely attached and faithful to their first love. Any OS that comes afterwards will always be compared to that initial experience.

I once tried to help a guy who was a very light-weight computer user (not a gamer, not a photoshop user, mainly surfing the web, going on Facebook and Netflix, etc).

I showed him Ubuntu and after 1 week, he couldn't bear the interface changes from what he was used to (he could use it, he just couldn't come to term with the less familiar look and feel) so he forked over 100$ for a newer version of Windows.

That's true. There isn't any way to help the people who cannot accept any form of change, but for others who just want to be able to do what they want to do...well, if Linux could catch a break, they wouldn't have the only option of a pricey OS you can only use so many times and isn't nearly as fast, sleek or secure.

If he was so against Unity, why not install something like Mint for him? Very Windows UI friendly.

Not sure how much it would have made a difference, but yeah, I regretted not giving him something more similar to Windows UI.

I was a Windows user until about 2010 and yet, I guess all the Unity UI changes many people complained about went under the radar for me. As long as its usable, I tend to just roll with the UI of the day.

As another Linux user, I laugh at you just accepting Unity like that. While Debian based systems certainly don't make it easy to switch due to their package manager forgetting that most things need slightly more than basic deps to run, I recently went on a romp involving Gnome3, KDE 5, Hawaii, Enlightenment, FVWM, Sawfish, XFCE, the LX series, and a few other obscure window managers! I normally just use Cinnamon/MATE, depending on which I fancy during the day. Had I bothered with the effort, I probably would have tried CDE too.

I just never got people's obsession with UIs. For me, I'm fine if I have something usable and functional, I just don't spend a lot of time and energy fussing over it.

Before Unity, I used Gnome and I was perfectly happy with that too. Frankly, having used both, I'd be at a loss for choice between Gnome and Unity. I just don't have a strong opinion about it.

It's the same thing with text editors. Some programmers got apeshit on all the features they can integrate in their text editor. If it's strictly up to me, just give me a text editor with syntax highlighting, good indentation support and I'm happy.

Now, I'd argue you until dawn about which database, programming language, OS or whether to use containers for a project, but which UI to use... I don't care all that much. I'm sure that at this point, they are all pretty mature and all very usable. Kudos to all the hard work that went into it, but I won't spend weeks agonizing over the OS equivalent of which wall color to use.

EDIT: The main factor which might sway me is resource usage. XFCE is the only one of the bunch I'm somewhat curious about, because apparently it's supposed to be lightweight on resource usage with does appeal to me.

[url=http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-lean-linux-desktop-environment-lxde-vs-xfce-vs-mate/]comparisons from various recent years.

If you really want to slice things down but still use a mainstream desktop environment, MATE is probably the most compatible.

This is GOG's Duke nukem forever!

Well, trying a new one takes ~30mins at most, so if it can save you 30secs a day through less typing and clicking, it's worth trying two or three a year. Specially when you consider you can delay that until an off day when you've got little else to do (other than, y'know, playing games :D), while the biggest savings occur when you're busiest.

Still, it's also true they're all pretty mature these days; I personally use Cinnamon, but only because a) it looks slick, and b) it's Linux Mint's default, which means I don't have to remember to "apt-get" anything post-install, it Just Works(tm). Well, other than changing keyboard layout and remapping Caps Lock to something useful, but between the two they probably save me at least 10 minutes a *day*, so it's very much worth it.

Oh, in that regard I'm the same as you, with one tiny little exception: performance and resource usage. If my editor takes more than 1-2 secs to boot or consumes precious RAM I've set aside for Starde... *ehem* PostgreSQL, bye bye it is; hence why I don't use the newest shiniest ones like Atom or Brackets, nevermind full-blown IDEs like Eclipse. But before Sublime I used to use Vim, dabbled a bit on Geany as well, and they all pretty much Just Worked(tm).

LXDE is also quite light, even lighter than Xfce I'd say, and the tiling managers could probably run on a toaster. Of the bunch, I'd decide based on taste and previous experience: if you prefer a Windows-like UI go with LXDE, if you prefer an OSX(or rather, CDE)-like interface go for Xfce, and if you enjoy making your computer unusable to anyone who hasn't spent a week reading through a tiling manager's documentation, go with one of those instead.