Posted August 07, 2025
Cavalary
RIP GoodOldGOG:DRMfree,one price,goodies,community
Registered: May 2011
From Romania
Stiffkittin
New User
Registered: Apr 2010
From New Zealand
TheDudeLebowski
ThatGuyWithTheThing
Registered: Oct 2011
From Other
Posted August 09, 2025
Suggestion: Eligibility depends on forum/community participation and having donated key(s) in the past (or having run giveaways of one's own).
That should be enough to prune out a lot of bad actors and alt accounts.
That should be enough to prune out a lot of bad actors and alt accounts.
Post edited August 09, 2025 by TheDudeLebowski
Cavalary
RIP GoodOldGOG:DRMfree,one price,goodies,community
Registered: May 2011
From Romania
Posted August 09, 2025
high rated
No. Forum participation is forum participation. Donations, purchases or anything else related to one's finances must not matter, neither as a positive nor a negative.
TheDudeLebowski
ThatGuyWithTheThing
Registered: Oct 2011
From Other
Posted August 09, 2025
A relatively recent maniacal blowup by a certain ban-evading user resulted in a multitude of alt accounts, through which he kept pestering forum users and starting quite a few obnoxious threads.
Taking this as an example, there is nothing that stops person X from creating as many accounts as X pleases, posting in the forums through those accounts, or even having conversations with oneself, which automatically would make X eligible for the giveaway.
Forum participation can be faked.
Now, in regards to the word "finances":
There are plenty of freebies on the site and giveaways from users with more lax rules in their giveaways.
Since this is specifically about the community giveaway thread, which has a constant stream of titles for a few years now, then it's understandable that the community would like to exclude people who are exploiting the good will of the donors.
I can expand even more if needed, but I'll keep it condensed for now.
Cavalary
RIP GoodOldGOG:DRMfree,one price,goodies,community
Registered: May 2011
From Romania
Posted August 09, 2025
I actually don't care to expand. If the stance needs expanding, our worldviews are clashing too hard for discussion to have much of a point.
There are people who barely make ends meet and for whom even a few bucks matter, you know? And there may also be people who, for one reason or another, may not have a suitable payment method available to them, or who may be prevented from purchases long-term for whatever other reason. Yet those people may well still be active and nice and helpful, and that should be the requirement, not anything else.
As for forum participation that can be faked... You know, if it's sufficient and sufficiently positive, what of it? In fact, it's only an issue for entries for starred games, which concept I'm still against anyway, because one would assume that a user with multiple accounts would have little reason to request the same non-starred game on more than one (except, of course, as an attempt to claim that those aren't alt accounts and make all of them eligible for starred game entries... which brings us back with the problem with that concept).
There are people who barely make ends meet and for whom even a few bucks matter, you know? And there may also be people who, for one reason or another, may not have a suitable payment method available to them, or who may be prevented from purchases long-term for whatever other reason. Yet those people may well still be active and nice and helpful, and that should be the requirement, not anything else.
As for forum participation that can be faked... You know, if it's sufficient and sufficiently positive, what of it? In fact, it's only an issue for entries for starred games, which concept I'm still against anyway, because one would assume that a user with multiple accounts would have little reason to request the same non-starred game on more than one (except, of course, as an attempt to claim that those aren't alt accounts and make all of them eligible for starred game entries... which brings us back with the problem with that concept).
SultanOfSuave
Still just a User. Quitting is hard!
Registered: May 2014
From United Kingdom
Posted August 09, 2025
With your suggestion, all that would happen is a continuation of what is already seen in the other free giveaways: users coming, claiming a gift, and departing once more having not contributed whatsoever; whilst with your suggestion the state of affairs would be that the wealthy few who are able to contribute pat one another on the back for being so charitable and continue stockpiling their already gargantuan collections; all the while the community population continues to dwindle in number with time. At least the current setup is an attempt at preventing this.
Post edited August 09, 2025 by SultanOfSuave
TheDudeLebowski
ThatGuyWithTheThing
Registered: Oct 2011
From Other
Posted August 09, 2025
We're working together, here. Not against each other.
This had become extremely prevalent when we were running finkleroy's Steam giveaway on Discord for a few months and later.
I'm far from being wealthy, and I've used to be financially able to run giveaways or gift keys in the forum giveaway in the past up until a little after Covid hit (again, I wasn't wealthy even before Covid). I'd personally hate it if I bought a game to gift in the giveaway, and X decides to hoard another title for the account he's planning on selling or just because he mistakenly thinks video games = gold. Especially now that my budget is so limited, that I can only do gifts for close friends over the Xmas holiday season.
Again, I'm not being antagonistic. I'm debating, and I'm open to a discussion in an attempt to solve this, so fire away.
Edit: clarified the "it wasn't always like this" part.
Edit 2: added another sentence to the first point.
Post edited August 09, 2025 by TheDudeLebowski
TheDudeLebowski
ThatGuyWithTheThing
Registered: Oct 2011
From Other
Posted August 09, 2025
Another suggestion (more of a tweak on the first one):
Users who haven't ran giveaways or gifted keys in the past are excluded from the Starred and store bought keys altogether, but not from the Amazon Prime Gaming ones, ones from bundles from other sites (the rare Humble Bundle odd bundle), and of course from the daggered ones mentioned before.
How's that?
Users who haven't ran giveaways or gifted keys in the past are excluded from the Starred and store bought keys altogether, but not from the Amazon Prime Gaming ones, ones from bundles from other sites (the rare Humble Bundle odd bundle), and of course from the daggered ones mentioned before.
How's that?
Ice_Mage
(⊃。•́‿•̀。)⊃━☆゚*・。*✲゚
Registered: Mar 2020
From Romania
Posted August 09, 2025
high rated
I like the giveaway as a way to reward people for positive forum participation.
I'm glad donating to buy eligibility was scrapped in the current iteration. It incentivized certain individuals to give away low quality items.
I'm glad donating to buy eligibility was scrapped in the current iteration. It incentivized certain individuals to give away low quality items.
Cavalary
RIP GoodOldGOG:DRMfree,one price,goodies,community
Registered: May 2011
From Romania
AlexTerranova
Balanced
Registered: Sep 2014
From Finland
Posted August 09, 2025
That should be enough to prune out a lot of bad actors and alt accounts.
That would be extremely time-consuming. And probably exhausting as well. ;)
TheDudeLebowski
ThatGuyWithTheThing
Registered: Oct 2011
From Other
Posted August 09, 2025
So the same hard no on your "tweak". (But, of course, I'd gladly scrap "starred" altogether.)
The keys are bought. Somebody else buys them. The financial part's already in the whole transaction to begin with. I don't think it's OK to rely on other people's kindness for the "financial part", no matter how you try to paint it.
Probably. Not disagreeing. As I said, it's a suggestion in an attempt to solve a recent issue.
Post edited August 09, 2025 by TheDudeLebowski
BenKii
Captain
Registered: Mar 2010
From United States
Posted August 09, 2025
high rated
That should be enough to prune out a lot of bad actors and alt accounts.
gnarbrag
star gazer
Registered: Feb 2009
From Netherlands
Posted August 09, 2025
high rated
As a donor I think Benkii is doing a great job distributing those codes.
I only regret not always being able to see how far the recipients are proceding in those games but I respect other peoples' privacy enough not to make a big deal out of it.
I only regret not always being able to see how far the recipients are proceding in those games but I respect other peoples' privacy enough not to make a big deal out of it.