TheWhiteRose: You pay 5 dollars just for the right to download the game. The monthly fee is 15 dollars a month. Your first month is free after that you have pay the monthly fee. I'm sure a Visa debit card will work fine; it doesn't have to be a "credit card". It could be your debit card or a Visa/American Express Giftcard. You can also buy time cards for certain amounts of time.

MonstaMunch: What's the deal with this?

MonstaMunch: Thanks for the info. It says the first month's fee is covered in the initial purchase, though I guess there's no way of knowing if it will accept my Visa at the end of the first month without trying.

Edit: I see your edit about the Visa. I guess I'll just have to try it and hope for the best. It seems that some systems automatically block cards from Cambodia, or treat them as spam (gog had to do something in their system to get it to stop saying my Visa was spam, as did GG, though Steam has always been fine).

TheWhiteRose: Are you comfortable at all with using Paypal? It might solve those issues.

MonstaMunch: Not really. I use it when I have to, but I've had some bad experiences with it. As foxhack said, the game will probably be F2P soon enough, so maybe I should just wait for that. I also have crap internet which would probably be an issue.

worlddan: I like Rift. It's a WoW-clone but a good one, FWIW.

worlddan: Having said that, I seriously doubt Rift is going F2P anytime soon. I heard the same stories about WoW for years too. From the public data I have seen Rift remains quite profitable and so long as that is the case there is zero incentive to go F2P.

MonstaMunch: Thanks for the info, I think I'm going to try it and see. Never played WoW (or any ofhter mmorpg), so should be an interesting experience :)

worlddan: Having said that, I seriously doubt Rift is going F2P anytime soon. I heard the same stories about WoW for years too. From the public data I have seen Rift remains quite profitable and so long as that is the case there is zero incentive to go F2P.

orcishgamer: If the 5 bucks for the client is too much I think I have an extra code for a free client that I can dig up. It also includes 30 days of play. You might have to give me 24 hours to dig through my pile of junk though.

MonstaMunch: Bugger. Thanks for the awesome offer, but I saw it 2 mins too late, just bought the "collector's edition" thingy a moment ago. :/

orcishgamer: Ack sorry. Still, 5 bucks for a month of play is probably a good deal. Enjoy:)

MonstaMunch: It was $7.50 as I'm a complete tool when it comes to marketing ploys, so felt like I wouldn't get the whole experience without paying the extra $2.50 for the spider and midget banker thing....

*blushes at my own stupidity*

Luisfius: Saints Row 2 is the best worst GTA-like. The best, because, well, it is the silliest and funniest one since GTA2. It is an absolute blast to play.

Worst because the port to PC was absolutely crap. It CAN be fixed with two mods, but it is still far from ideal.
The two mods are these:

http://saintsrowpowertools.com/
It fixes (some) performance issues and makes it work. Yeah. Don't play without it.
Hell, you basically CAN'T play without it.

http://idolninja.com/sr2.php
Gentlemen of the Row. Great mod. Adds a shitload of silly stuff, tries to restore content, and last time I checked, was even porting the SR2 DLC that never got released on PC. Besides, flamingo nukes.
Making the best GTA-like even better. I don't think it has things as silly as SR3's dildo weapons, but it is close. Have not played SR3, but Gentlemen of the Row is wonderful and great. Unlocks animations and voices and A LOT OF STUFF ot be used.

Also, once that is done and configured, you can do AWESOME coop multiplayer. It is a blast. At less than five bucks, SR2 is a TOTAL STEAL. Hell, I don't really like GTA, but SR2 is amazing.