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ZFR: Unvote mchack
[b[Vote trent

Sorry trent. This time it's not because I think you're scum, but because of the above you are now definitely a town liability. If the above is true, you're prime target to be recruited.
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Hunter65536: Wrong... he said he was not scum.
Yes, that's why I realized it right after I made that post and why I unovted him in the next. He could be hacker. I didn't want to say, in the hope scum do try and recruit him, but they are not stupid either and would notice it anyway.

Anyway, with all that happening I think now the trent/adalia/machack wagons are tainted.

flub as the least of all evils, but if HSL wagon has a hope of succeding...

unvote flub
vote HypersomniacLive
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mchack: I how many people have stated they are averse to lynching HSL? none? right then you have your way to evade no lynch right there.
Okay then.
Unvote mchack
Vote HSL
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mchack: how many people have stated they are averse to lynching HSL? none? right then you have your way to evade no lynch right there.
I won't be voting him today.
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Bookwyrm627: I won't be voting him today.
If dedo doesn't either then there's no point voting HSL since excluding bookwyrm, dedo, adalia, HSL, sage since we don't know if she'll be back before deadline, leaves us with 7 exact people.

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ZFR: Yes, that's why I realized it right after I made that post and why I unovted him in the next. He could be hacker. I didn't want to say, in the hope scum do try and recruit him, but they are not stupid either and would notice it anyway.

Anyway, with all that happening I think now the trent/adalia/machack wagons are tainted.

flub as the least of all evils, but if HSL wagon has a hope of succeding...

unvote flub
vote HypersomniacLive
Might as well shift to mchack I know I will be
Unvote HSL
Vote mchack
I will not double Post again!

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Bookwyrm627: I won't be voting him today.
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Hunter65536: If dedo doesn't either then there's no point voting HSL since excluding bookwyrm, dedo, adalia, HSL, sage since we don't know if she'll be back before deadline, leaves us with 7 exact people.
we won't know what dedo will do just as we won't know what sage might do.
you can only place your own vote and make sure you can take the heat for it tomorrow. I know that a vote on me will only lynch town. guess it's back to lynching town or no-lynch if that's what you want. sure you can get it. or you change back and try to lynch scum.
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mchack: we won't know what dedo will do
We do know. You or flub. Since flub seems to be off the table my vote is where it's supposed to be.
I saw I briefly made prettiest princess. Pay close attention, town.


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Leonard03: @Krypsyn your vote counts are awesome. Thanks

Ugh, I wish I read as fast as HSL. Made it to about page 16 and have come to some interesting conclusions, but starting to get a headache and not really processing stuff anymore. How I wish days did not last 30+ pages.
Unvote: adaliabooks
Vote: HypersomniacLive
Conclusions which I'm sure are great in your head where they will remain, eh?



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Hunter65536: [...] @HSL Yes it does answer my question, got some doubts to discusss post game or now if you’d like. What I’m sceptical about is that #31 happened more than 2 years ago and this one could be entirely personal attribute of mine but now when I look at my first games here which were near same time frame I’d hardly be able to rationalise what I was thinking back then while doing something. Might be that I just have a bad time remembering things in long run though.

Vote mchack
[emphasis added]

The current game is one of mchack's first games, only his 4th. First game (#30) he rolled town, second game (#31) he rolled scum. He played in no other games until game #51 where he subbed in for town. So, he's been scum only once before; that's why I said I don't think he's shaken off his scum-meta yet.

I don't expect you, or anyone else, to just take my word on this, you can go read for yourself; perhaps you'll disagree, and that's fine. In game #31 he went under fire on D1 and was saved by the mod's intervention. After that, he started acting the same way he's acting here, with less time on his hands back then as he was working at the time.

I'll give him this, though - he's a quick study; he's smart (more than he lets on), he takes in advice he's been given, pays attention to the details of things others say (more than he lets on) and makes use of them in his arguments, and with more time on his hands here, his attempts to muddy the reads between his scum and town play are indeed better at times - see how he jumped in and replied to this post of yours that's addressed to me, and how he argues; ask yourself, is it a proactive act to predispose your view before I get a chance to say anything, and is it the first time he's done it?


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Hunter65536: [...] excluding [...] sage since we don't know if she'll be back before deadline, [...]
Interesting.



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Bookwyrm627: I won't be voting him today.
You sure you don't want to go for some town points? After all, you're my scum-buddy, remember?



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ZFR: [...] Anyway, with all that happening I think now the trent/adalia/machack wagons are tainted. [...]
Don't think I follow why you think the latter two wagons are tainted, especially the mchack one.
I will not double Post again!

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HypersomniacLive: I'll give him this, though - he's a quick study; he's smart (more than he lets on), he takes in advice he's been given, pays attention to the details of things others say (more than he lets on) and makes use of them in his arguments...
thank you, means a lot to me coming from you :) I am quite the admirer of your play myself you know. you and yogs are my main mafia idols I think. don't come anywhere near either, of course. But it does feel good to hear praise like that.

Still I'm town. period. and you at least have a very good chance of flipping scum. So I do hope we can lynch you yet
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HypersomniacLive: Don't think I follow why you think the latter two wagons are tainted, especially the mchack one.
Trent vouched for them after his revelation.

At this point im dwfinitely not viting them. it,s either flub as least evil of the original 4 or anyone but them.

Sent from mobile during break in meeting. Will try to make home kn time.
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ZFR: Trent vouched for them after his revelation.
Sorry to trouble you but do you remember the post number? Also do you mean trent thinks mchack is town or trent knows mchack is town vouch?
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ZFR: Trent vouched for them after his revelation.
That doesn't mean anything if all three of them are not masons.
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Bookwyrm627: I won't be voting him today.
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HypersomniacLive: You sure you don't want to go for some town points? After all, you're my scum-buddy, remember?
And be stuck managing this crowd by myself? Nah, I'm good.

That's the joke I want to make, anyway. I'd hate to make it and get killed for it, though.
Maybe ZFR values my opinion, but I have no way of knowing if anyone is town but me. After the game is over if mchack, adalia, or flub are scum on Day 1 I will be surprised, but that’s just my opinion.



@dedo, even if all three were Masons how would I know?
I will not double Post again!

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dedoporno: ... That doesn't mean anything if all three of them are not masons.
We're down to discussing masons now? Can't leave those PR alone... :P

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Bookwyrm627: And be stuck managing this crowd by myself? Nah, I'm good.

That's the joke I want to make, anyway. I'd hate to make it and get killed for it, though.
yes, yes. the jokes we make often telling aren't they? and there's also the not wanting to vote for scum and being wedged hard on a townie train. oh well, each to their own.

So who's gonna hammer? who wants the prime seat when all this gets cleared up?
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trentonlf: @dedo, even if all three were Masons how would I know?
I think he meant you, mchack and adalia being the masons. Unless that were the case you wouldn't be able to vouch for them.