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mchack: there's others that irk me a bit (to a way lesser extent), but after having thought about it, I don't wanna go into it right now.
EBWOP: actually, since who knows what will happen after the lynch, why not go into one more now

#3 bookwyrm for,
a) isn't he usually a rather verbose player? he was in RVS at least. Since then he's been flying well below radar.
b) on ISO I haven't found him very engaged even when posting, after RVS was over. Don't see any(?) scumhunting (not sure about that really). I think krypsyn has put down more of a stance ;) but well nothing scummy either.

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mchack: a) helping adalia in painting a silly RVS joke as a "genuine scumslip". #145 - outlined in #254
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dedoporno: Now you are getting ridiculous. First of all, when you cite posts make sure to point to their actual numbers rather than your own responses to them. #141 was my post and I asked before adalia. How was I helping him paint anything as a slip if I mentioned it first?!
it was this #142 (ftfy) that started it all. every other player immediatly got the joke or chose not to pick on it. (it was rather obvious at the time as I outlined in #254. So you enabled adalia to fabricate a "genuine slip" out of it.
If intentional or inadvertently, I obviously can't know.

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dedoporno: Do you realize the majority of your list is based on stuff I DIDN'T DO?! And if you honestly believe "mchack is the strongest negative vibe" is the reasoning behind my post as a sole statement with nothing behind it, I don't know what more to say to you, but feel free to update it to "even stronger". What did you call it last game? Shade casting?
I'm not voting you never was. That's because it's not strong enough evidence to do so. But it is my reasoning on why I think you might be scum. We talked a lot this game day, you haven't made a very townie impression on me. Others may think otherwise, the impression I have may change in time. but right now, I have you leaning scum.
Also if I don't get lynched today, I'm going to kill all of you in your sleep,




And pee on your faces.
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flubbucket: Also if I don't get lynched today, I'm going to kill all of you in your sleep,

And pee on your faces.
or your talent will shine and you'll become a valuable asset by tomorrow, showing us some stellar town play. (or you'll get converted)
Incidentally, I'm still waiting for your "stance" to hold you to tomorrow, just in case.

Who's scummy to you? (besides anyone not voting you)
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mchack: it was this #142 (ftfy) that started it all. every other player immediatly got the joke or chose not to pick on it. (it was rather obvious at the time as I outlined in #254. So you enabled adalia to fabricate a "genuine slip" out of it.
Cool, but I didn't even mark it as a slip. Adalia was the only one that did. In fact my previous post 404 is the first one in which I even use the word "slip". I only asked the original question that you say was the enabler (I agree that adalia built on it later on, but how does that make me scum?! Because I happened to dig in some of the things he also looked at?) but after you gave your explanation about the Wyrm => worm connection I never even brought it up anymore, yet you keep putting me in the same bag as adalia on the slip accusation. The list of things you accuse me of that didn't even happen just keeps growing - how can that keep happening and my negative read on you wouldn't increase? I'm honestly baffled by this. I keep forcing myself to see all of this as a result of Town-you trying to find the scum in the people who has you as scummy for whatever reasons but you can't just keep making stuff up. Even if it's by mistake and you concede after we clear it up you have to agree that can't just keep happening, come on man!
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flubbucket: Also if I don't get lynched today, I'm going to kill all of you in your sleep,

And pee on your faces.
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mchack: or your talent will shine and you'll become a valuable asset by tomorrow, showing us some stellar town play. (or you'll get converted)
Incidentally, I'm still waiting for your "stance" to hold you to tomorrow, just in case.

Who's scummy to you? (besides anyone not voting you)
My "value" is this Day.
Read up to page 20, will try and post later.
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mchack: it was this #142 (ftfy) that started it all. every other player immediatly got the joke or chose not to pick on it. (it was rather obvious at the time as I outlined in #254. So you enabled adalia to fabricate a "genuine slip" out of it.
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dedoporno: Cool, but I didn't even mark it as a slip. Adalia was the only one that did. In fact my previous post 404 is the first one in which I even use the word "slip". I only asked the original question that you say was the enabler (I agree that adalia built on it later on, but how does that make me scum?! Because I happened to dig in some of the things he also looked at?) but after you gave your explanation about the Wyrm => worm connection I never even brought it up anymore, yet you keep putting me in the same bag as adalia on the slip accusation. The list of things you accuse me of that didn't even happen just keeps growing - how can that keep happening and my negative read on you wouldn't increase? I'm honestly baffled by this. I keep forcing myself to see all of this as a result of Town-you trying to find the scum in the people who has you as scummy for whatever reasons but you can't just keep making stuff up. Even if it's by mistake and you concede after we clear it up you have to agree that can't just keep happening, come on man!
*emphasis' added by me*

Saying "keep" alot?

ok. let's see, I mentioned your connection to the "slip" exactly once in #254 factual. not calling you scum for it.
After that my scumlist above #403 was the only time I said this connection made me think you may be scum for it. and this single post is what you keep referencing and I answer.

I'm not making stuff up. people can revisit the posts I mentioned (or reread, ISO, etc) and form their own opinion.

I'm not trying to make you have a less negative read about me.

If you wanna go ahead and detail with mentioning of post numbers, how your negative read of me came to being, then please do. I did and I stand by it. (no conceding here)
I made a promise to myself that I wasn't going to comment outside of votes and vote-counts, but I have already broken that promise a few times, so... and this might be the wine talking... but:

A ‪‎physicist‬, an ‪‎engineer‬ and an ‪‎economist‬ are stranded in the desert. They are hungry and find a can of corn. They want to open it, but how?
The physicist says: “Let’s start a fire and place the can inside the flames. It will explode and then we will all be able to eat”.
“Are you crazy?” says the engineer. “All the corn will burn and scatter, and we will have nothing. We should use a metal wire, attach it to a base, push it in and crack the can open.”
“Both of you are wrong!” states the economist. “Where the hell do we find a metal wire in the desert?! The solution is simple: Assume we have a can opener…”

Always really liked that joke. Perhaps because I was studying to be physicist (okay, fine, a biochemist) before I realized economists made more money for less work (in the aggregate).
Just a notice: I'll not be around tomorrow. Should you manage to lynch someone tomorrow (unlikely without pressure, I know, but just in case), I won't be able to close the Day until Monday morning. But that doesn't mean that the lynch would be invalid. It just means an extended Dawn period.
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Lifthrasil: Just a notice: I'll not be around tomorrow.
The joke wasn't that bad...

Was it?
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mchack: If you wanna go ahead and detail with mentioning of post numbers, how your negative read of me came to being, then please do.
The whole discussion the two of us had is what built the negative read. Accusing me of stuff I didn't even do in your reads is only making it worse.

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mchack: a) painting a silly RVS joke of mine as a "genuine scumslip" - outlined in #254
I never painted it like this. Recently you changed that to "facilitate adalia's push on it". Right.

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mchack: d) his Hypothetical case where he is hypothetically fishing for PR in #270, to which he later conceded he wouldn't actually do that #351
I'm scum because of hypothetical example that I gave as why I don't want to get into a discussion of power roles. Right.

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mchack: e) voting me with his only reason being "mchack is the strongest negative vibe" in #361
Let me ask you something about this. After everything we went through what would say my feelings towards you were? Mostly positive, mostly Neutral or mostly negative? If it's anything other than the last, please tell me what made you think that way. If it's the last, please tell me how "mchack is the strongest negative vibe" is not describing that?

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mchack: I'm not trying to make you have a less negative read about me.
Neither do I try to change my appearance in your eyes. I just don't appreciate getting mud thrown at me.
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dedoporno: ............ I just don't appreciate getting mud thrown at me.
Use it to exfoliate.
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Sage103082: Have you seen my posts about books? I have pointed out what I find off and I have my vote on him.
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dedoporno: I have and up until now they were less than solid. Your vote on adalia was based on him giving Kyrpsyn a free pass for voting the player with the most votes. Your suspicion of him deepened based on him wagon jumping to secure a vote. Do you honestly believe these can pass for what you're asking of others?
Please show me where I asked someone to do something? I thought I was asking them questions about their actions / words to gain knowledge. You know, Kinda how the game is played.
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Sage103082: Please show me where I asked someone to do something?
On the doll?!
Apologies for the above comment. It was the first thing that came to mind, and the wine made me post before I thought better of it. Any significance you may imagine from he above comment is on you, not me, from henceforth.

Also: kitties!