So even in your "I've got it all figured" scenario there is some uncertainty. And don't you think spilling info on three people to confirm/condemn one is a bit too much? I said I believe 1 to 1 is OK since it should provide enough context to figure out who is telling the truth and who isn't, but only if someone was going to come out and challenge mchack's claim on their own. Everything more than this will likely destroy whatever mystery there is left and from then on it's a race on who will be able to pick the opponents faster. Town can remove one scum at most and that will never change - if everything gets revealed with certainty we are going to lose in the long run for sure (it might not be even that long depending on how things go).
-I haven't "spilled" anything. I've taken Mchack's statements about who he is/is not masons with, and I've taken the wagon analysis that town should be doing anyway, and combined them to come up with the obvious conclusion. This is something that any of us could have done (even the new guy), and I'd wager that scum have either already done it, or they would have done it at night if we didn't. Continuing to pretend that Mason!Mchack hasn't outed his mason buddies isn't doing town any favors, and it may prevent town from advancing in a useful direction as townies are too busy trying to avoid outing the masons to deal with the problem of lynching scum.
I refer you back to Day 1, where none of the primary wagons were moving, and no one tried to start a new one before time had basically run out.
-We were in that race at least from the moment that Mchack started claiming, whether you want to admit it or not.
That's (effectively?) four votes. Two more will kill a townie and save me some writing.
I think they were three at the time of the quoted post and are currently four.
That is from the official vote record. My count includes Adalia's vote, under the assumption that he did mean to vote for me. He didn't unvote first, so officially his vote for me was invalid.
And if there are fewer votes for me than I indicated, I'd read it as even fewer people than I thought wanted to stop me.
Then why out the so clear masons when you are town yourself? Maybe some scum can read even less than you supposedly do, and this would only help them get their last conversion shots right tonight.
A simple analysis of the D1 wagons (that was going to happen anyway) combined with YOUR claims were all that was needed to out the masons. I've stopped pretending they were uncovered, but them being exposed is your fault, not mine. If you didn't want them outed, then you shouldn't have claimed.
While someone would have to try and read me to figure whether I'm coming from town or scum (what would be my scum motivation for this, anyway?), one doesn't have to do much more than surface reading to conclude "I can't see masons risking their mason buddy this way".
Maybe I could have only said "According to the wagons, Dedo, Krypsyn, and ZFR aren't aligned with Mchack", but the net effect (only Flub, Trent, or Sage could be your mason buddies) is the same. Dancing around naming them as the masons is tedious, and it prevents us from clearly saying why Flub, Trent, and/or Sage are off the table.
What I propose is this. Let's lynch bookwyrm and we can know by the flip whether what he said up until now is coming from scum or from town. if town, you can decide to lynch me tomorrow or have the other two masons back me up
Your plan for when I flip town is either to lynch a mason or to out the rest of the masons?
if he flips scum, then we know we are on the right track and get some more info by hopefully scum flips from getting their conversion shots wrong (because we haven't explicitly talked about who is mason but me) or they nk me which also helps town by confirming that I really am mason and you can go back through my posts and judge what I said from that perspective.
*snort* If I flip scum, what does that tell you? That HSL is scum? You've already drawn that conclusion before my flip.
I've already outlined why scum almost certainly won't be shooting wrong, and it is your information that filled in the missing pieces.
I still say this was not a town thing to do D2 with two conversion shots left and two masons still in hiding and thereby you are scum and have to be lynched today.
The idea that your mason buddies were still in hiding is nothing but an illusion, much like an ostrich with its head in the sand still has its butt standing high, just waiting to be shot.
At this moment I believe mchack (if only because 3 hackers would have done something about it by now, plus it is consistent with his voting D1 and D2).
What would they have done? Voted for the claimed mason? Outed themselves?
Maybe put together the evidence that shows the claim is false, without actually claiming themselves? :P
I know it's just my word for it.
*shrug* You are probably already aware that you gave the expected answer, regardless of your alignment.
Would you have made this post if you were a cyborg? I think you might have. Maybe even its intention was to give pointers to your cyborg friends before your lynch. But if you're townie, then I apologize.
How close was I to being lynched before this?
Assume for a moment that I'm a cyborg. What would I have to gain by this? Can you give any half-way plausible reason that isn't "WIFOM"?