Part I mchack: dedoporno:
... As for the "no omgus vote from me", that I left out. true.
...Not voting back (omgus or not) is obvious. Telling everyone you are not doing it is redundant.
so is your answer. redundant. I already conceded that I could have
left it out. *-corrected the italic part in post #234 an hour before your answer-*
as I said before, stating you are town is not something I view as particularly scummy. But since you do (you pointed out a sentence from me before in this game #142), I thought you should at least be fair and do it for everyone. Though in retrospect after having skimmed the whole thread I only found that adalia said he's human twice - nothing about being town, specifically.
Another thing I never said anything about. At no point I disliked you stating that you are Town (to be honest I didn't even register such a thing and now I probably have to go back and find what you're referring to).
well here it is:
ah, thanks but no thanks, I do find townie suicide pretty scummy, so I won't do that.
So you'd do anything for love then?
that is you calling me lamist for pointing out I'm town. that's how I understood it at least. You actually meant something else by it?
The only thing that I noted was you not voting back the person who voted and and letting everyone know you didn't do it. That's all. I wouldn't hold it against people claiming they are Town, it's only natural, regardless of their actual alignment.
see above. had already conceded. why do you keep on driving the same point?
I may be mistaken but I'm getting the impression our conversation is trying to change it's direction to something it was not about originally...
yes you are mistaken. I'm trying to clear up what I meant with what I said and answering questions and asking when I'm unsure how you meant what you said.
uhm? how is that relevant at all?
It's was just a story I felt like sharing at that moment.
fair enough, still don't get how it applies here. really don't, even if others seem to do. Care to elaborate?
I have to ask - is there a way as town in this setup to actually know who is scum?
Seems like a trick question. hmm, let me think: yes, after a flip. and after being converted (though then you're not town anymore). else no. no cop or anything. open setup. we all read it.
[...] yes, I remember. But tell me how are you supposed to act when you are town? your usual self, avoiding doing scummy things, or for fear of being called out on it, acting all strange [...]
Did I say you should act all strange? I'm merely pointing out that the arguments in your post #218 are not exactly the sort that will clear you as town.
ok. But do tell me what do you do as town? not act strange (unless you always do), but don't be yourself either? Because that's what I'm doing. Being myself. Guess I need a few more games before my meta gets known :/
[...] Incidently shouldn't town wyrm be coming up with something by now)? [...]
He kind of did early on, in a jokingly manner, but it went unnoticed.
Care to point?
[...] well, it hasn't occured to me until you mentioned it. [...]
That's not exactly what's giving me trouble.
then what is?
Would you say that it's still probably so even if one were a town PR?
I won't be discussing power roles. I suggest you don't either, unless it becomes very necessary.
Why? there's no power roles per se. And the question isn't about strategies of scum or masons or vanilla. Just if you think self preservation against being lynched kicks in as hard when you are a town PR as when you are scum or as you infered before always harder when you are scum.
Are you saying that:
(i) given the context of adaliabooks post #161, and
(ii) having taken into account it's D1,
that you thought adaliabooks may have been joking about placing a serious vote on mchack based on a gut feeling? And if so, you considered he may be joking about which part, his vote being a serious one, or the reasoning for it?
Calling mchack scum. At the time it was just words, no votes. The reasoning was very D1, so it doesn't hold that much weight.
it was the first time someone called someone else scum seriously
(as in he said serious vote, as in the opposite of jokingly - which explains my reactions)
By the way, should I be addressing you from now on when I'd like to discuss mchack related topics?
we all do - for everything. it's the all seeing eye, man.