Obvscum false dichotomy.



Not a town post. Please tell me why on earth you would want to be unreadable as town.


Golly I should never have unvoted you. That is a scum vote if I have ever seen one and his reasoning is totally flawed and empty and I don't believe he is doing anything to sort anyone at this point if he is genuinely scumreading yogsloth over anyone else.

unvote lift
vote rwarehall


I like your vote but I still like mine better so no sheepy.


On second thought this just might make rware town????

unvote rware
vote dessimu



This is a distancing vote.


Can someone tell me about sage and dessimu's relationship because they seem very oriented towards each other?

@HSL: OK. You're right, details are important. So what detail didn't I answer yet? I think I answered everything about the page one interaction with Bookwyrm. And I think I explained my vote on Yogs. So what remains? I have still the same problem with your posts that I had in the last game. And that problem had nothing to do with me being scum in that game but was genuine: your posts are often so long that it is easy to overlook things. So, what is it that irks you and that I should answer?

Ugh this post is so grossss. I cannot believe you are town regardless of dessimu's vote. I was going to vote dessimu properly formatted in my next post but no you can keep my vote.

RWarehall/book/sage are my strongest scumreads right now with dessimu as a close fourth.

However I am hesistant to believe that scum dessimu would be at L-3 so easily right now.

She made me never talk about that one night in the bar.

Not as such. I believe the actual offer was to make me kill myself first. Am I getting an upgrade?

That doesn't quite answer my question, though - what about Dessimu earned him a spot among your suspects, and now your vote?

And I wouldn't say no to a nice traditional Krapfen, the results of my baking venture (my) last evening were less than satisfactory.



I thought he did already? Or do you not consider his posts #169 and #197 to be a claim? Or do you not buy it? If the latter, why not?

And I thought that you didn't embrace claiming at the verge of getting lynched. Did you change your mind?



Same question to the two of you - don't you see his posts #169 and #197 to be a claim? Or do you not buy it? If the latter, why not?


Pings you in what way exactly?



[emphasis added]

We both know that you're smart and experienced enough to do it only if you were quite sure it could/would hold without raising (many) eyebrows easiily. I do like your attempt at laying the ground to be town-read, though - "look, I didn't express suspicion on anyone yet, so I'm not scum, and when general-you see me trying to solve the game, it's because I'm town, and nothing but town; you can take my word for it because, you know, I just told you so. Don't mind that I know of the scum-pitfalls, and how to avoid them". Would you like a wink and a nudge to go with that, and your doughnut? ;-)



Hitting the post button here to go prepare lunch. And to spare Lifthrasil from feeling (more) overwhelmed. ;-P

Thanks! :-D

It's day 1 and I am operating more on gut than anything. After reading everyone's posts the feel I get is the Dessimu's probably scum, same as I get for cristi. So I want pressure on both of them to see what happens, plus I want to see others reactions to said pressure. Who's ignoring it and why, who's defending it and why, who's pushing the issue and why, etc.

It's Day 1 and we have nothing to go on, so my gut is all I can use at this point and my gut is telling me donuts are a good thing ;-)

Somehow I don't see you pressuring me. You claim actions that you want to do, yet there is very little doing involved. You keep explaining yourself, as if that helps anybody. How is that?

*checks vote count*
Yes I see pressure on you
It helps the voices in my head ;-)

Rrright... Now check your exact post and a conversation that led you to it. I see your vote more as "Shut up already, you annoy me" rather than "There's this, there's that - you scum". I am telling you, trentonlf I remember is different. Whoever you are - bring real trentonlf back!

I've commented previously about yogsloth's WIFOMing, so no I haven't considered the other "claims" to be legitimate.

You might remember his famous claim of cop in his opening post some games back. It wound up being true. However this seems less a claim and more of an attempt to obfuscate. Upon his lynch if he's revealed as vanilla town then it's job well done in keeping the power roles hidden.

I assure you I'm still me and I'm still here, and unlike Pinocchio I'm a real boy ;-)


@flub, that was yog's breaking RW's game by claiming out of the gate. Also, how exactly do you know yog's will be lynched?

Are you "feeling" the Dessimu lynch? Because that last comment reads like you're voting Dessimu just to avoid No-Lynch.



Can I expect a reply to my post #201 question to you?



How so?


In what way?


Define "relationship".


I have to ask again, what about Sage103082 in particular makes her one of your strongest scumreads at this point? Do you take her lack of participation as scum lurking her way to victory? She did warn that she'd be mostly away this weekend. Something else, and what?

Also, is your suspicion of Dessimu linked to her? You seemed to see a link between the two of them earlier, and seem to be still looking for a connection between them.


You like trentonlf's vote on Dessimu, put him on your #4 scum-slot, and, if it wasn't for RWarehall's last post, you were about to vote him yourself. Yet you don't quite like his wagon? Puzzled, to say the least. If you don't think this is a scum-Dessimu wagon, why were you willing to get on it?



@Lifthrasil, you're up next. ;-)

I'm sorry you feel overwhelmed, but if you can't read everything I post, then just look for your avatar to find the part(s) pertaining to you. Though if you can't be bothered to (carefully) read everything people post, my eyebrow will raise wondering why that may be...

Irked? Do I necessarily, or exclusively, have to be irked by something you said in order to question you? I don't think so. Irked is a pretty strong term, imo, and if anyone was irked out of the two of us, it most certainly wasn't me.

You may think that you've answered everything you have been asked about, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you did; you didn't, not to mention that you just admitted to being prone to missing/overlooking things, at least in my posts. Or that you did answer them in a satisfactory to the other party way, hence the questioning may persist.

So, if you feel inclined enough, I asked you a question in my post #68: and another one in my post #181: You have to go back to the post I linked to for context in order to answer this one.


There, a not-all-that-long post, just and all for you. ;-)