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@Trent In Search of.

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RWarehall: He's probably town, but I find his repeated defense of the ambiguity to be new. He usually just runs with it.
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medamiedo: Why is he probably town? You feel very passive and don't seem super interested in doing much with your vote.
Because he does this stuff all the time and I don't recall him doing it as scum (can't recall the last time he was one though, so it could be lack of opportunity). Umm...that was an RVS vote despite my double-purpose to use it to chastise Bookwyrm. As such, I don't plan to do much with THAT vote. Don't worry, when I find something I'm looking for, I'm usually all over it like flies on butter although I'm trying to be a bit better about it.

Let's just say I'm watching some things, seeing how they develop and looking for a good case(s) to make before day end. We play pretty slow paced here. The first half of day 1 is usually a lot of RVS and random stuff, but the action usually starts in the last few days...
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trentonlf: Anyway, as of right now my gut is saying cristigale. She has only repeated what others have said and really seems to be posting to post without making waves. I guess "ISO" her and see what you think.

That being said
Unvote HypersomniacLive
Vote cristigale
In regards to "she's only repeated what other have said", are you referring to more than post #123? Post #123 was a catch-up post. Should I avoid commenting on anything that someone else has already said? Doesn't leave much game worthy to discuss at this point. But supposedly, I should not agree or re-iterate what anyone has said, because that's my scum tell, it is not? Guess what? I do it as town. I share my thoughts. In a catch-up post, those thoughts are bound to be influenced by what others have said. I'm not going to make-up something just to sound original. Well, town-me doesn't do that. Scum-me is well aware of this 'tell' and would go out of my way to avoid it.

The second part: posting to post without making waves. Do you expect something different from town-me at this point in the game? If so, can you provide an example? And speaking of posting to post without making waves, your ISO reads as a long line of jokes...interspersed with a couple questions/observations offset by a joke. Do you see the irony in this?

BTW, I believe ISO stands for isolation, as in isolating the posts of another player.
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RWarehall: Let's just say I'm watching some things, seeing how they develop and looking for a good case(s) to make before day end. We play pretty slow paced here. The first half of day 1 is usually a lot of RVS and random stuff, but the action usually starts in the last few days...
But but I didn't do RVS and.. and.. >.>

I have decided that I am mason buds with trent this game. I hope he accepts!
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medamiedo: after seeing more of dess I think I misread her tone
Minor correction - "...his tone..."
Oh no!! Sorry!
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medamiedo: Oh no!! Sorry!
No problem ;)



So, looking more at interactions rather than votes, it looks like:

Medamiedo is onto RWarehall
Trentonlf is onto Cristigale
HypersomniacLive is onto Lifthrasil
Lifthrasil is onto Bookwyrm627

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Two things stand out:

1. Lifthrasil - I know you are being questioned about your everything leading to Bookwyrm, but you placed vote on Yogsloth and I don't see you pursuing it, questioning yogs repeatedly or anything. What's the point of your "serious vote" without gathering evidence?

2. Bookwyrm - you placed RVS vote on HypersomniacLive and without unvoting, pretend to vote Yogsloth. As follows:
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Bookwyrm627: Vote HypersomniacLive
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Bookwyrm627: Vote Yogsloth
Moreover, you don't do much of any kind of observations, hunting or whatever it is you usually do when Town. You just surrounded yourself in "I may or may not be a vig" fog and keep dodging sticks that try to poke you. Nothing more.

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Other than that:

- Yogsloth - let's forget the "I kill you" part for a moment, which works as a distraction. You throw this in:
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yogsloth: Lift is Town btw.
Reason: "Scum Lift wouldn't bite me". Just like Bookwyrm, you have done absolutely nothing apart surrounding yourself with "Kill fog", checking if mod is killable and protecting one single player that votes you specifically, yet in a way that lets him jump off easily.

- Trentonlf is goofy and I don't know what to make of it. I have never met goofy trentonlf and it raises my left eyebrow.

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To sum it up, we have a scum team of three players, as per rules. The only three players that connect in weird way are Lifthrasil, Bookwyrm and Yogsloth:
- Bookwyrm throws in some fluff, dodges questions about fluff, pretends to vote Yogsloth
- Lifthrasil questions Bookwyrm's fluff, dodges questions about questioning fluff, votes Yogsloth with weak reason and doesn't pursue it
- Yogsloth throws in some fluff, vouches for Lift being town, ckecks if mod is mortal

Unvote JMich
Vote Bookwyrm
And where has Sage gone?
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Sage103082: Pudding...
So, how is that pudding?
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cristigale: You know curiosity is eventually going to kill the cat.
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Bookwyrm627: Pro tip: if it ticks, then don't sleep with it.
Because if you do, a doctor will come into your room, come to the conclusion that you've swallowed a bomb and start digging through your guts?
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Lifthrasil: Everything, of course! :-) But at the moment mostly: how do you play as town and how do you play as scum and how much experience do you have playing Mafia?
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medamiedo: Every game is different, there's no one way I play as either alignment. But I prefer coming here to be a new thing and to leave behind my past mafia experience tbh.
So you are aware that every game is different, but still assume that you have figured out my MO after a short glance at past games. That's cute.


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Dessimu: ...snip...
You know, you're right. The problem is, Yogs hasn't really delivered anything that one could talk about. His 'townreading' me could be honest (we had that in the past, that I attacked yogs and he concluded from that that I must be town) but it could also be scum-yog giving a benevolent read to appease me or appear towny or make me look bad if he falls or whatever. There are so many possible reasons.
So, yogsloth, I would like to see something more substantial from you. Apart from wanting to kill everyone first. Do you have a top suspect so far? (Or to speak your language: anyone you want to kill firstest? Even firster than all others?) And why? And how is town supposed to profit from your posts so far?

And Dessimu raised a good point: WHY wouldn't I bite you if I were scum? I probably could fake it if I were scum. Or is it because you are scum yourself and assume that I wouldn't attack you so early (especially with my history of being too loyal to scum partners). So, does your knowledge that I'm town come from your own scum-being? Or is there something else behind it? Or nothing at all?
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Lifthrasil: So, yogsloth
- Do you have a top suspect so far?
- (Or to speak your language: anyone you want to kill firstest?
- Even firster than all others?)
- And why?
- And how is town supposed to profit from your posts so far?

- WHY wouldn't I bite you if I were scum?
- Or is it because you are scum yourself and assume that I wouldn't attack you so early?
- So, does your knowledge that I'm town come from your own scum-being?
- Or is there something else behind it?
- Or nothing at all?
I just rearranged your questions to yogsloth. Do you honestly expect yogs to answer them all? Also, you do realize half of those are like fluff, right?
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Lifthrasil: So, yogsloth
- Do you have a top suspect so far?
- (Or to speak your language: anyone you want to kill firstest?
- Even firster than all others?)
- And why?
- And how is town supposed to profit from your posts so far?

- WHY wouldn't I bite you if I were scum?
- Or is it because you are scum yourself and assume that I wouldn't attack you so early?
- So, does your knowledge that I'm town come from your own scum-being?
- Or is there something else behind it?
- Or nothing at all?
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Dessimu: I just rearranged your questions to yogsloth. Do you honestly expect yogs to answer them all? Also, you do realize half of those are like fluff, right?
Yes. And I expect that he'll answer at least those. ;-)
No, I don't expect a truthful answer to the question if he is scum. That was more written open thinking on my part, since it would be the only way how he could be sure that I'm not scum.
But I do hope that he'll answer the first question and thereby starts to contribute.
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Bookwyrm627: Pro tip: if it ticks, then don't sleep with it.
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JMich: Because if you do, a doctor will come into your room, come to the conclusion that you've swallowed a bomb and start digging through your guts?
Pretty much. At least I got to sleep through it.

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Lifthrasil: And Dessimu raised a good point: WHY wouldn't I bite you if I were scum? I probably could fake it if I were scum. Or is it because you are scum yourself and assume that I wouldn't attack you so early (especially with my history of being too loyal to scum partners). So, does your knowledge that I'm town come from your own scum-being? Or is there something else behind it? Or nothing at all?
That's...an oddly specific phrasing. Lift, did you just slip?

Unvote Hyper
Vote Lift
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medamiedo: Every game is different, there's no one way I play as either alignment. But I prefer coming here to be a new thing and to leave behind my past mafia experience tbh.
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Lifthrasil: So you are aware that every game is different, but still assume that you have figured out my MO after a short glance at past games. That's cute.
Um why are you shading me like this? I don't know that you play every game very differently, I don't know that there may be similarities about even my own game between alignments that I don't know about that I wouldn't be able to change, and I didn't just take a short glance at your past games.
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Lifthrasil: And Dessimu raised a good point: WHY wouldn't I bite you if I were scum? I probably could fake it if I were scum. Or is it because you are scum yourself and assume that I wouldn't attack you so early (especially with my history of being too loyal to scum partners). So, does your knowledge that I'm town come from your own scum-being? Or is there something else behind it? Or nothing at all?
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Bookwyrm627: That's...an oddly specific phrasing. Lift, did you just slip?
Take a look at the last game. Then you will understand what I mean. Unless you intentionally WANT to misunderstand me.

@meda: I'm not shading you. Just pointing out what you did. I provided you with some links and a short time later you placed your vote, implying that you had solved my Meta. Which is either naive or arrogant, especially since your 'solution' led you to the wrong conclusion.
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cristigale: In regards to "she's only repeated what other have said", are you referring to more than post #123? Post #123 was a catch-up post. Should I avoid commenting on anything that someone else has already said? Doesn't leave much game worthy to discuss at this point. But supposedly, I should not agree or re-iterate what anyone has said, because that's my scum tell, it is not? Guess what? I do it as town. I share my thoughts. In a catch-up post, those thoughts are bound to be influenced by what others have said. I'm not going to make-up something just to sound original. Well, town-me doesn't do that. Scum-me is well aware of this 'tell' and would go out of my way to avoid it.

The second part: posting to post without making waves. Do you expect something different from town-me at this point in the game? If so, can you provide an example? And speaking of posting to post without making waves, your ISO reads as a long line of jokes...interspersed with a couple questions/observations offset by a joke. Do you see the irony in this?

BTW, I believe ISO stands for isolation, as in isolating the posts of another player.
1. So I am to assume you only do this as town? My bad, you are cleared as scum
2. You are absolutely correct again, man how could I be so bad at this game that I didn't clear you before I suspected you!
3. I again apologize for suspecting you, I should never except anything different from you in any game. *as for an example, I don't do the reading and posting of previous games. We are playing this game, not some game from the past*
4. There's a method to my madness! Would you like a donut?





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medamiedo: But but I didn't do RVS and.. and.. >.>

I have decided that I am mason buds with trent this game. I hope he accepts!
Let's do it! We shall build a wall that all scum will fear for ages to come!!