Not only trent agrees to lynching inactive players. Usually I am also in favour of lynching all lurkers ... but at LyLo we can't afford to let that be the only lynching reason. In a normal play the argument brought by someone against Sage has some validity. Even if a lurker turns out to be town, it still removes an otherwise hardly solvable unknown from the game, since someone who lurks isn't readable. But at lylo it's game over, should the lurker turn out to be town. Therefor your push for lynching HijacK based purely on his absence looked scummy to me.

Talking about possible scum. I don't see Hunter and HijacK as cooperating. So I guess if one of them is scum, the other is town. Unfortunately I still see both as possible scum candidates. Nacho is a bit back and forth for me. Sometimes he appears scummy, sometimes, like in his last post, rather towny. Of course everyone could be scum, but at the moment he feels less scummy than Hunter or HijacK. Trent, as I detailed, might have been converted tonight and I see it as quite possible, that CL-HijacK is using him. Either as bus-victim or as mis-lynch-push.

So, at the moment my lynch candidates would be, in order of preference, HijacK, Hunter and trent (if all else fails). I definitely won't lynch dedo or myself.

And to get things moving, I vote according to my preference:
vote HijacK

Dedo, if Hijack is CL, he probably has a cultist unless he attempted to recruit you. If everyone makes pushes on him that rule him out from being their CL, that makes him a much worse lynch.

So perhaps the one person that doesn't want to push him (you) is his cultist. Or the cultist just pretends to suspect his CL, to fit in with the crowd. I find the reasoning 'Everybody suspects him, so he cannot be CL' very shaky at best.

What?!?! Let's see, we have at least 4 town players left, possibly 5. You're saying if the majority of people left think Hijack might be CL that he can't be the CL because too many people suspect him? Even though the majority left is still town? This makes me think you are the cultist trying to draw the lynch away from the CL.

Vote Hijack

Being a cultist doesn't mean you won't bark at the CL exactly because of what you are describing. Also, I have to agree with Lift that there is a flip-side to that coin. If almost everyone is pushing for the same player (and not without acceptable reasons) and just one other person of questionable trustworthiness is backing backing that player up there might be something up to it.

But I don't think Nacho meant it that way, if you see Nacho's posts you can see that he did push Hijack during the game. Considering that everyone has pushed it does seem like that but like dedo said scum could've pushed just to fit in with the crowd.
What happened with the Inquisitor anyway? Do we have one and did they find something useful n1?
@Nacho Why aren't you sure that Hijack is scum? If so who do you suspect?

IF we do have an Inquisitor and he didn't find any scum tonight, I think it would still be dangerous if he revealed himself. So it feels a bit fishy, that you ask after him. Say we happen to lynch the cultist and not the CL. Then the CL could still take the Inquisitor out Tonight, if he is known. So the only good reason to reveal himself would be if the Inquisitor had found someone. Securing a scum lynch would, after all, at least avoid losing the game today. But I think he would have already claimed had he found someone. Since no one claimed so far, I conclude from that that we either don't have an Inquisitor or he didn't find anything.

If an Inquisitor has an innocent read that he finds useful then that's still someone who isn't Cultist and isn't CL and is definitely useful information when we have one lynch to get it right.

Yes. But only if we are in danger of mislynching. If a train on a player whom the hypothetical Inquisitor knows to be innocent takes off, he has to stop it. Since a mis-lynch means game over. But as long as the hypothetically cleared player is not in danger, it is better for the Inquisitor to stay hidden.

Okay, was just wondering since people seem to have forgotten about it. Also please answer my question in post 441, other than the Inquisitor part.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Inquisitor knew about drealmer being town yet he still managed to lynch himself?

What question? You just asked about the Inquisitor and you directed a question at Nacho. But I'm not Nacho.

And no, dedo, that wouldn't be hilarious. That would be sad!

It's been just under 20 hours since HijacK was put at L-2 and he is still not lynched yet. That suggests one of few possible scenarios:

- Both cultists are on the wagon and HijacK is town.
I don't believe that. Trent is not cult from what I can tell.

- One scum is on the wagon and his buddy is afraid of joining too fast to not look draw attention and scare the town players of voting for HijacK who is town.
That makes Lift scum but from past interactions I can't put my finger on a decent scumbuddy for him that will make sense. The only possibility that seems somewhat plausible is Nacho but then the HijacK push doesn't make too much sense. At this point the cult would probably be playing for the win rather than taking the slow path to stay hidden just in case.

- The single scum is on the wagon and HijacK is town.
That would make Lift the CL who tried to recruit me and got flipped off by Trent in the process. At the moment I feel this is the only plausible scenario where Lift is scum. If the game continues after the lynch this scenario will probably be among the first ones I'd look into. Unless Lift and his buddy are performing one of the best mafia teatros I've seen in which case - well done!

- The single scum in NOT on the wagon.
In this case I'd continue my original feud with Hunter.

- HijacK is cult.
So far so good. I can see only two branches that make sense in this case:

* HijacK's buddy is on the wagon (Lift) to play for the long game. Doesn't seem too likely but it's possible, I guess.

* HijacK's buddy is not on the wagon in which case Nacho seems like the best guess.

* HijacK's recruitment failed and he's alone. Nothing to analyse here.


At this point I'd probably go through with HijacK unless someone points other cases that I missed which bear more weight and have to be considered.

What additional posting has he made that makes you think that he isn't the CL?
I think that the Trent-Hunter by virtue of Trent defending Hunter is a pretty out there theory, yeah; I am also townreading Hunter by virtue of his recent/early posting I think that Trent explaining his Hunter read wouldn't hurt things at all.

I disagree that Sage and Hijack were super far apart in terms of "handling"; I think a perspective of "Hijack is noticeably scummier than everyone else but a large part of it hinges on him just not being here" is a pretty understandable perspective to take in general, and so I don't really understand why it's getting the knee jerk reaction from you that it is.

I trust that everyone knows what they're doing, so experience was probably a bad choice of words. What I meant to reference was something more along the lines of looking at people's scum range; for example, yogsloth and bler are both experienced players but what they are capable of doing and what they are comfortable doing as scum is vastly different. I'm wondering how comfortable Hunter is as scum and how capable he is of faking some of the scumhunting that he's done here.

Hey guys. I'm finally back and I'm catching up. I'll get back into the game shortly. I will, however, be unavailable most of tomorrow as it is my birthday and I will be celebrating.