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http://fallout3.filefront.com/files/Fallout_3/Official/Patches;12171

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They do patches; but I get the gist of it; they are not really of the supportive type of dev houses on the long run.
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Atlantico: ...
You mean both Bethesda and Obsidian release bug-ridden games and it's not a myth but cruel reality? ... Yes!

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anothername: They do patches; but I get the gist of it; they are not really of the supportive type of dev houses on the long run.
Fallout 3 received support for over 8 months - When it comes to AAA developers, Bethesda is on the "supportive on the long run" side.
Post edited June 06, 2015 by Fenixp
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Atlantico: ...
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Fenixp: You mean both Bethesda and Obsidian release bug-ridden games and it's not a myth but cruel reality? ... Yes!

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anothername: They do patches; but I get the gist of it; they are not really of the supportive type of dev houses on the long run.
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Fenixp: Fallout 3 received support for over 8 months - When it comes to AAA developers, Bethesda is on the "supportive on the long run" side.
Woah, someone else slight defended Bethesda AND dug at Obsidian... and didn't get a down rep. No fair! :P
By now, everyone knows that I love Obsidian and don't like Bethesda, but I'll say that too: Obsidian games are often bug-ridden messes at release, and sometimes even after years the bugginess can be threatening.

For example, I have just finished playing Neverwinter Nights 2: the title is absolutely great, yet I have found TWO game-breaking bugs I needed to overcome using console commands and several other minor ones, like teleporting characters, companions that do not want to follow me and so on (the game was released in 2006).
I think I have been lucky in New Vegas: I bought the Ultimate Edition, and the only problems I had were two crashes in total, no bugs in mission or anything else. That said, I remember a friend of mine was crying blood to let it work, when it was released... and most of all, I've seen the console versions of the two recent Fallouts.
I have played FO3 on my Xbox360 -since back them my PC couldn't run it- and it was pretty terrible in its insatbilty and tendency to freeze every 20 minutes, but the PS3 version of New Vegas a friend of mine bought... well, that's like a pyrotechnics show (note that both were fully patched to the last version)! XD
Also, I think I have no need to mention Alpha Protocol and Kotor2.
Yes, most of the times they were forced to rush the development due to time restraints, yet a buggy game remains a buggy game, even if it is my favourite.
That said, I find both companies to be absolutely awful for what concerns good coding, since I had a fair share of serious issues with every Bethesda game I have played, too.
Post edited June 06, 2015 by Enebias
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Enebias: By now, everyone knows that I love Obsidian and don't like Bethesda, but I'll say that too: Obsidian games are often bug-ridden messes at release, and sometimes even after years the bugginess can be threatening.

For example, I have just finished playing Neverwinter Nights 2: the title is absolutely great, yet I have found TWO game-breaking bugs I needed to overcome using console commands and several other minor ones, like teleporting characters, companions that do not want to follow me and so on (the game was released in 2006).
That bug still exists? I
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darthspudius: That bug still exists? I
If you are referring to plot-related events that do not trigger regrdless of what you do, leaving you stuck forever in an area... the answer is yes, unfortunately! :(
Luckily they are very easy to overcome with conole commands, but still!
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darthspudius: That bug still exists? I
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Enebias: If you are referring to plot-related events that do not trigger regrdless of what you do, leaving you stuck forever in an area... the answer is yes, unfortunately! :(
Luckily they are very easy to overcome with conole commands, but still!
I havent touched that game in years because of that bug haha.
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viperfdl: You're right. I haven't played Skyrim. Would you recommend it to someone who liked Morrowind and was really disappointed with Oblivion?
Give Skyrim a shot. Pick up the DLCs, because the Dragonborn DLC is Bethesda going "OK, jeez, fine, have some Morrowind. Now will stop complaining please?"

Oblivion was a terrible horrible no good very bad game. [url= reference is http://www.amazon.com/Alexander-Terrible-Horrible-Good-Very/dp/0689711735 ][/url] Skyrim on the other hand was an improvement over Oblivion in almost every way. They're neither of them like Morrowind, though, which is actually kind of nice; you may find that even if you loathed Oblivion, you enjoy Skyrim - but you'll still find reason to go back to Morrowind.

Now that it has been several years and all the official DLCs are out and the mods are done, this is a great time to get into Skyrim. Take a look at the top mods, get what seems interesting to you, and have a blast. There's a lot to like in Skyrim.
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OneFiercePuppy: *snip*
Thanks to you and Siannah for the answers. Then I only have to decide if I want to rent another game from steam. If there would be at least a steam-less boxed-version...
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viperfdl: Thanks to you and Siannah for the answers. Then I only have to decide if I want to rent another game from steam. If there would be at least a steam-less boxed-version...
Steam's Summer sale starts next week (EDIT: I mean this week...it should start on the 11th). I would imagine you'll be able to get the Legendary pack (all DLCs) for about eight euro (maybe four if it goes for 90% off). If you see it at that price, just get it. If you already have a Steam account, there's no reason not to pick up a great game like that for dirt cheap.
Post edited June 07, 2015 by OneFiercePuppy
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OneFiercePuppy: Steam's Summer sale starts next week (EDIT: I mean this week...it should start on the 11th). I would imagine you'll be able to get the Legendary pack (all DLCs) for about eight euro (maybe four if it goes for 90% off). If you see it at that price, just get it. If you already have a Steam account, there's no reason not to pick up a great game like that for dirt cheap.
Doubtful. The Legendary version of Skyrim hasn't fallen below $/€10.2 (66%) on Steam as of yet. At best, I predict it won't go below $/€7.49 (75%).