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adaliabooks: And I can imagine they will be pushing or incentivising it through Unreal Engine, let's face it if Epic can get all the developers using their engine to sell on their store (or even make it a term of using it) that's quite a few games.
Well, going by the article, there's a 5% royalty that devs using UE4 normally have to pay Epic -- but they'll waive that for sales made through the Epic storefront.
I don't know if there's any up-front licensing fee on top of that, but it certainly should make UE a more attractive option for anyone that might consider releasing on the Epic store, and make that store more attractive to people already using or planning to use that engine. (I mean, on top of getting 88% of the gross sales revenue.)
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Always good to have more options. With all the numerous fuck ups GOG really is not a store we should hang on to for dear life. I don't enjoy the idea of further multiplying my online accounts, but if that new store should offer DRM-free something GOG won't, or should GOG piss me off even more... sure. Why not? Anything that takes us in the direction opposite to the "PC market = Steam" mindset is welcome.
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CrazyProfessor2: Not to mention the amount of censorship that China has with video games (take example with what had happened with Rainbow Six: Siege a month ago).

Here to hoping that the trade war will not come to actual war.
They own our movie industry, too. It's enough of a problem to draw the attention of Congress (see http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/congress-probes-chinas-inroads-in-the-us-film-indu/).

China wants to own as much as possible of our other industries. Sometimes, it's pushing their official agenda (https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/china-bullies-foreign-companies-into-espousing-its-worldview/). Until recently, Beijing had a crooked policy where foreign companies would be required to turn over technology in exchange for access to the lucrative Chinese market (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-10/china-says-foreign-firms-won-t-be-forced-to-turn-over-technology).

U.S. regulators are increasingly blocking Chinese merger/acquisition of U.S. tech companies on national security grounds (https://www.forbes.com/sites/allbusiness/2018/08/13/mergers-acquisitions-and-investments-involving-u-s-companies-with-chinese-other-foreign-parties/).

Sorry to disappoint you, but all the signs point to China spoiling for a war with the U.S.

Don't suppose these hypersonic missiles are for show, are they?
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-successfully-tests-hypersonic-missile/

Do you use satellite internet or GPS? As the old saying in Destiny 2 goes: "Eyes up, Guardian"
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/china-tests-anti-satellite-missile/

China planning J-20 stealth fighter specifically designed against U.S. F-22 and F-35
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-stealth-j20-us-f22-f35-comparison-2016-11

Even Beijing knows jet fighters are better with a carrier
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/26/china-launches-second-aircraft-carrier-that-is-first-built-at-home
And Devolver Digital just tweeted this https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/1070035466794090496
Now I can play Fortnight while chugging Mountain Dew with my broskis AND buy VtM:Bloodlines all in one place!
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ShadowWulfe: VtM:Bloodlines all in one place!
Which raises the age old question, could a vampire live on Mountain Dew instead of blood?

I know I have! :D
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CrazyProfessor2: Hmm, well fuck. I knew about the ZTE thing and the spy chips in the motherboards, but not about the other things. Not to mention the amount of censorship that China has with video games (take example with what had happened with Rainbow Six: Siege a month ago).

Here to hoping that the trade war will not come to actual war.
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tinyE: Please don't encourage him. :P He'll start back in on how our drinking water is being deliberately poisoned by our own government and whatever else his little army of Alex Jones wannabes tells him. XD
I wonder if all the guys that believe this stuff realize that they are spouting nonsense that is a carbon copy of the satirical dialogue of General Ripper in Dr. Strangelove?

"Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face."
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darthspudius: Another online store for me to ignore. Yay for them.
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firstpastthepost: I pretty much ignore them all too. My preference is to have a single library but I do have some stuff spread out a bit as it is unavoidable in some cases.

I do think that Epic, owing to the fact that they are part of tencent which has large equity stakes in almost everything related to gaming now, and the amount of money they have that them putting out a storefront to distribute games is an interesting thing for the distribution market.
If Epic can get success doing it, all power to them.
another place another account another password/email/username another memory to use to remember details

i'll rather play games without log in depending the type
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DivisionByZero.620: Sorry to disappoint you, but all the signs point to China spoiling for a war with the U.S.
China isn't the only country that censors video games.

Also, your argument is that China is trying to start a war because they have an army? By that logic you better watch out for Canada and Norway.

Or is your argument that they are going to start a war because they are spending money on their army? By that logic the US is precipitating it's own demise by insisting that NATO members spend more on their military.

Your argument is seriously lacking any logical backing whatsoever.

*edit* I should also add that China starting a war makes zero sense if you knew anything about the economy you weren't being fed by Fox news. The US has the best trade deal in the world with China. They get cheap goods and China gets paper that's essentially an IOU in the form of T-Bills. China is sitting on billions and billions of dollars in T-Bills. If they go to war with the US that billions and billions is worth a lot less. So it is not economically expedient for them to go to war with the US. But you'd know that if you actually learned anything about economics from legitimate sources.

*edit again* I'll also add. Take your nonsense elsewhere. It's not on topic and I'd rather keep the thread from getting locked cause you can't keep your conspiracy theories to yourself.
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adaliabooks: And I can imagine they will be pushing or incentivising it through Unreal Engine, let's face it if Epic can get all the developers using their engine to sell on their store (or even make it a term of using it) that's quite a few games.
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HunchBluntley: Well, going by the article, there's a 5% royalty that devs using UE4 normally have to pay Epic -- but they'll waive that for sales made through the Epic storefront.
I don't know if there's any up-front licensing fee on top of that, but it certainly should make UE a more attractive option for anyone that might consider releasing on the Epic store, and make that store more attractive to people already using or planning to use that engine. (I mean, on top of getting 88% of the gross sales revenue.)
Bingo, there you go.

If I were making a game with UE then that would make this new store a pretty tempting prospect, and I imagine any clienty stuff will come pretty much built in to UE so it shouldn't take a lot of extra effort.
And if the profit is better then I imagine developers would push customers to that store instead of Steam, and before long it has a good selection of games and a lot of customers.
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CrazyProfessor2: Hmm, well fuck. I knew about the ZTE thing and the spy chips in the motherboards, but not about the other things. Not to mention the amount of censorship that China has with video games (take example with what had happened with Rainbow Six: Siege a month ago).

Here to hoping that the trade war will not come to actual war.
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tinyE: Please don't encourage him. :P He'll start back in on how our drinking water is being deliberately poisoned by our own government and whatever else his little army of Alex Jones wannabes tells him. XD
Saw what you meant by this.
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TheGrand547: i wish companies would stop making new storefronts, its so annoying imo. I just wanna have gog/steam/independent storefronts as the options, no stupid extra layer like uplay or *shudder* origin or now epic games thing.

Just let me download my games without your dumbass front end!
Yeah. Competition is great if we are getting competitive benefits from it. Currently, if you are talking about a general gaming platform, there is no one doing it better than Steam, and no one offering anything different like the way GOG does (compulsory DRM-Free).

There is no competition, only fragmentation.
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Caesar.: I think competition is good for the customer. It forces companies to innovate and offer games as a service.
Fixed that for you. ;)

(At least that's one the "innovations" the industry currently seems to push; keep in mind that what's deemed good by the average consumer might not be the same as what's deemed good by the minority of GOG customers ...)
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I'm wondering if eventually this new Epic store and/or other similar forthcoming stores might put GOG out of business. The market's getting awfully crowded with all these stores. Some of them are bound to fail and close down sooner or later.