I suppose, but that could refer to a group of people desperately trying to offend others as well. Otoh, I guess those would be trolls ... hm.
It's just that when someone says "SJW", I instantly know what they mean because I'm used to the term is all. So, I was wondering - a lot of people seem to dislike that term.

Never liked Thor, but a single word being changed isn't exactly as diabolical as the thread title made it sound. I mean, hasn't everyone in comics died and been resurrected a bunch of times by now? Yeah, I can totally accept the "magic hammer" thing. Not really seeing why it's a big deal.

I'm stealing this.

I didn't make many of those terms. Offendatrons was created by someone else. Feel free to use it though ;D

Offendatrons could be offended people and offensatrons could be offensive people, simple!

I don't care what anyone says, there's at least one week out of every month when no woman under 30 should be gifted with godlike powers. A super heroine on her period would be like giving Lex Luthor the keys to a nuclear silo.

It seems what is currently known as "SJW" could well fit into both categories. :p

This post amuses me. Does that mean we're both asshats?

Problem is that the whole list comes down to "People who don't agree with me".

I'm neither a "SJW" nor "ProGamerGate" (both of them have some valid points even if the most vocal people in both groups are completely exaggerating). In my eyes the whole controversy is extremely pointless and stupid and the level of this argument is the one of 3-year-old kids fighting in a sandbox. People should relax, stop insulting each others and return to playing the games they love.

Well terms are made to make fun anyway and people who consistently behave in a particular fashion get grouped as such.
Problem is that one side or the other cannot always relax. Even saying something is a vocal minority isn't enough now. People are being led to believe every woman ever day every game is being harassed for being a women when playing games online, which is completely untrue. There has been many fights about this and we're still no closer to any statistic.
Anyhoo, its basically the reluctance of people to talk this over that is the biggest problem. Tomorrow will see one year of this conflict and in the past one year; there have been NO conversations about how to make women feel more welcome, how much inclusion should be expected from a game, how much inclusion is pandering, how much overt factors like gender contribute to immersion building, how free games are to cater to a particular audience, how to analyze experience focused games, how to manage, if any is needed on the balance between mechanical complexity and ease of accessibility and everything else and then some. Hiding behind a blocklist brought the possibility of talking about so many things to zero. Ofc GG is also quite responsible, but its been one year and tomorrow will see the first debate of whether this movement has any credibility or not and that itself shows who was willing to talk it over and who was content with complaining and then laying back for the victimbux to make them rich.

In my eyes both groups are equally unwilling to talk to each other. All they do is to shout at and mock each other and I haven't seen anything constructive in months (not sure if I have seen anything constructive at all). But to be honest, I don't really care and try to ignore the dispute most of the time. And I'm quite sure that's what 99% of the gamers worldwide do as well.

Yeah, I agree. We are the same...

Obviously the inscription should be in all languages. Also, it is problematic that thor's hammer is still a weapon and tool of violence.

Also, the character should be all races at once. Thor being only white is LITERALLY the kkk.

Furthermore, changing original thor is also quite offensive, because it assumes that the original male thor was not a female, and is therefore transphobic hate speech.

Yeah, I agree. We are the same...

Yes, many people voluntarily stay out of this but IMO the aGG side is at least a bit more reluctant to discuss ;D. Like there have been calls to come and discuss from proGG from the beginning. The GG subreddit responds to INDIVIDUAL neutral people on what their principles are. And they're always open to debate them. No one comes from aGG. You can see it on this forum even. Everyone wants to whine and complain and cry over alleged misogyny but as soon as those claims are challenged; they'll go scooting off to their peers because purity of opinion is somehow a thing. But I'm pro GG so that opinion is to be expected but not dismissed :D.
But you're right. I was hoping this would encourage people to have conversations about the small problems that we DO actually have. I think it has to do with people on both sides either labeling something as proGG or aGG without no middle line and hence people staying out because they don't wanna be boycotted by proGG or slandered by aGG. Again some emphasis on aGG for refusing to speak to neutral people. The tactic so far has been aGG claims something, proGG proves it wrong but aGG runs to the next false claim. Either way we're still no closer to anything now than we were BEFORE even Anita's ''conversations'' on the topic. GG succeeded in changing ethics policies; and even destructiod changed theirs a few days ago. But I think the larger problem or the perception of this problem, which is sexism and exclusion and stuff have not been discussed.

You call people fascists and idiots, and then you're surprised they don't want to discuss things with you. Just think about that for a second.

Myself, I try to ignore all that Gamergate stuff, stay as far away from both crowds as possible. I see both groups as very vocal, unpleasant minorities best left to alone to fight it out between themselves to their heart content. As far as this forum is concerned I just wish they would stay in their "containment" thread, and not spread the insults elsewhere.

The whole internet got taken over by these three letters apparantly, although noone can really say what they're supposed to mean. It's a conspiracy! :P

As far as I can tell it's a big virtual superhero role-play. One group is the superhero team of Social Justice Warriors, and the other is the villainous Social Injustice Gang. But then it turned out the Injustice Gang people think the storyline is based on the Forever Evil comics storyline, where the Injustice Gang saves the world from an evil Justice League. And now they are arguing about that.

I'm just repaying the favor. Also, if you could suggest another word or term to describe people or ideas that are based on trying be as authoritarian as possible, pray say so and I'll start using it instead.

If you don't wanna talk, don't. You have your reasons. But at least keep in mind that if internet conversation was anyhow similar to real conversation; what aGG is doing now is crying rape when a a guy bumps into a woman and then running off and coming back when everyone's formed a mob to lynch the guy and shouting out some complaints and then leaving again. It did nothing positive or helpful and someone doing it is just overly pessimistic and hateful rather than actually giving a fuck about the ''oppressed minorities''.

I see what you did there. xD